Woman Died After Muslim Nurse Refused To Help

[jhu]

could be you there tomorrow. traffic accident, choke on a bone. lots of young people in those facilities too.

would you want the world to think as little of your life ?

If I was 87 with a neurodegenerative disease, yes put me out of my misery. No point in wasting resources keeping me alive when I'm just going to die of pneumonia anyway.

 

[Tom]

If I was 87 with a neurodegenerative disease, yes put me out of my misery. No point in wasting resources keeping me alive when I'm just going to die of pneumonia anyway.

What if you're 25 ? any resources being wasted then ?

 

[umbrella39]

Wow a thread just full of logical fallacies from MARCH 12 pst OP.... it's summer now. I heard that someone shot the president back in MARCH 30 (1981).

Do you think he should be allowed to continue to worship Jodi Foster and should he face charges?

🙄

 

[Kadarin]

While I am no fan of Islam, I strongly suspect that if you were to ask an imam the question of under what conditions can (or should) prayer be interrupted, he would agree that to save another person's life would be on the list.

 

[jhu]

What if you're 25 ? any resources being wasted then ?

If I was Terry Schiavo? Yes, put me out of my misery. If my brain is intact, keep me alive.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You really need to read and comprehend the article. The woman should have gone to the hospital immediately after the fall; four hours before the nurse was praying. Waiting four hours is what led to her death, not someone praying.

lol wut. Technically the fall led her to her death. People need to simply stop doing things that lead to their deaths.

 

[Incorruptible]

While I am no fan of Islam, I strongly suspect that if you were to ask an imam the question of under what conditions can (or should) prayer be interrupted, he would agree that to save another person's life would be on the list.

The imam would probably agree to cancel the prayer except the man shouldn't have been praying in the first place though and this never would have happened.

 

[alzan]

lol wut. Technically the fall led her to her death. People need to simply stop doing things that lead to their deaths.

Which means you should lay off the hamburgers.

Anything else of actual substance you'd care to add to the thread, other then hyperbolic "humor"?

 

[alzan]

This case is about the serious issue of too much accommodation, the guy shouldn't have been praying, pray at home

Should all employees of all faiths be restricted in their prayers when at work, even if they work at a religious institution? Cause we all know you want laws and regulations applied equally.

Or is this just another one of your Muslim-bashing threads?

 

[Slew Foot]

LOL @ England, start putting up those minarets! Bunch of pussies

 

[dbk]

shouldn't he be charged with negligence? at the least, i hope he's fired from that job..

 

[CitizenKain]

I'm inclined to agree with you. Christian bashing is all the rage these days. No doubt it would have drawn a lot more attention.

Actually it likely wouldn't have been brought up at all if he had been christian, in fact, it wouldn't have made the news. But, the papers realize they can sell more copies if they drag up fake outrage, and dumb people who don't read the entire article will believe the headline.

As proven in this thread.

 

[Incorruptible]

shouldn't he be charged with negligence? at the least, i hope he's fired from that job..

Yes he should but I doubt anything will happen

 

[actuarial]

Well said Sir. There are more important things than praying such as saving a life.

This case is about the serious issue of too much accommodation, the guy shouldn't have been praying, pray at home

Well said. There should be no prayers allowed at all.

The imam would probably agree to cancel the prayer except the man shouldn't have been praying in the first place though and this never would have happened.

All this garbage and you still refuse to tell us why he couldn't simply stop praying in an emergency situation. That also would have avoided someone having to wait. You have not supported why he should not be allowed to pray at all at work.

Once again I'll ask:

And if he was smoking, making a personal call or grabbing lunch, would you also advocate not doing those things at work in any situation?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Do you really think its appropriate for him to pray at work? If he didn't pray she would be alive

Yes and like usual, you are wrong. Him praying did not cause her death but his incompetence. A trait you share with a muslim.

 

[SagaLore]

The real question here is why didn't they have enough workers on staff to handle the situation, knowing he is a Muslim when they hired him they should have worked out a reasonable schedule for him. It is not accomodation, it is common sense. This country was built on the premise of religious freedom and representation and it seems the same people who ignore our lack of representation also ignore this man's right to religious freedom.


Shocking, I know...

England was founded on religious freedom and representation? 😵

 

[Incorruptible]

All this garbage and you still refuse to tell us why he couldn't simply stop praying in an emergency situation. That also would have avoided someone having to wait. You have not supported why he should not be allowed to pray at all at work.

Once again I'll ask:

If he was smoking or getting lunch then he should have stopped it to help her like any decent human being. But praying was more important to him😕

He shouldn't have been allowed to pray in the first place because of multiculturalism failing and too much accommodation, otherwise the lady would be safe.

 

[Rainsford]

If he was smoking or getting lunch then he should have stopped it to help her like any decent human being. But praying was more important to him😕

He shouldn't have been allowed to pray in the first place because of multiculturalism failing and too much accommodation, otherwise the lady would be safe.

So despite acknowledging that activities other than praying could interfere with performing life-saving job duties, you seem to feel that praying is specifically the problem for some reason?

If he had been busy eating lunch, would you suggest banning lunch as "too much accommodation"? And for that matter, does it seem reasonable to ban ALL prayer in a workplace just because someone may not have the best sense of priority about it?

 

[actuarial]

If he was smoking or getting lunch then he should have stopped it to help her like any decent human being. But praying was more important to him😕

He shouldn't have been allowed to pray in the first place because of multiculturalism failing and too much accommodation, otherwise the lady would be safe.

And he also should have stopped praying like any decent human being would have.

So I imagine you're against lunch and smoke breaks right? Because maybe somebody somewhere won't stop their's to help someone?

And how many time do people have to point out that the lady would not have been safe even if he wasn't praying. After multiple people checking her no one called the hospital. She did not die while waiting for the guy.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Well said. There should be no prayers allowed at all.

You're right lets outlaw ALL religion.

 

[0roo0roo]

just wonder how that idiot spun that one, god not sending u a message?
lawl

 

[Incorruptible]

And he also should have stopped praying like any decent human being would have.

So I imagine you're against lunch and smoke breaks right? Because maybe somebody somewhere won't stop their's to help someone?

And how many time do people have to point out that the lady would not have been safe even if he wasn't praying. After multiple people checking her no one called the hospital. She did not die while waiting for the guy.

I am not against lunch and smoke breaks, this guy felt praying was more important, People aren't understanding the issue, this is multiculturalism gone too far and people are dying. He shouldn't be allowed to pray, Christians aren't.

 

[cybrsage]

come on people wtf is going on!!!!!


theres a time and a place and neither are at work :twisted:

The times for prayer are set, work or not the Muslim must go pray. In this way, it is much like a smoker who must go have a cigarette - only smokes are taken far more frequently.

 

[actuarial]

I am not against lunch and smoke breaks, this guy felt praying was more important, People aren't understanding the issue, this is multiculturalism gone too far and people are dying. He shouldn't be allowed to pray, Christians aren't.

I know you aren't against lunch and smoke breaks, and you shouldn't be against praying. The problem was not with praying, just like it wouldn't have been with smoke breaks, but rather prioritizing those above emergency situations. Taking a prayer break is no different than taking a smoke break.

Christians are certainly allowed to pray where I work, and any other religion as well. People take the morning off on ash Wednesday and leave early on the first day of passover.

When are you going to acknowledge that no one died because of this person's decision to continue praying?

 

[Incorruptible]

I know you aren't against lunch and smoke breaks, and you shouldn't be against praying. The problem was not with praying, just like it wouldn't have been with smoke breaks, but rather prioritizing those above emergency situations. Taking a prayer break is no different than taking a smoke break.

Christians are certainly allowed to pray where I work, and any other religion as well. People take the morning off on ash Wednesday and leave early on the first day of passover.

When are you going to acknowledge that no one died because of this person's decision to continue praying?

The problem with prayer is multiculturalism and its failing.

This was in England where people get fired for wearing a cross. Did you read the title of the article which states she died because he refused to help since he was praying.