Wolfowitz says US must act even on "murky" data

[Czar]

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N27243356.htm

WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) - U.S. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz on Sunday defended the invasion of Iraq as an example of how the United States had to be prepared to act on "murky intelligence" in its war on terrorism.

Wolfowitz was asked in several television interviews about widespread criticism that Washington's rationale for the war -- charges that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons and was collaborating with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda group -- appeared to have been built on shaky foundations.

No such weapons have been found and little concrete evidence has been presented of an al Qaeda link.

"The nature of terrorism is that intelligence about terrorism is murky," Wolfowitz, one of the architects of the Iraq war, said on the "Fox News Sunday" program.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What a Fascist.

"Justification? We ain't got no justification. We don't need no justification. I don't have to show you any stinking justification!"

Points for where the paraphrased quote comes from.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Czar
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N27243356.htm

WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) - U.S. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz on Sunday defended the invasion of Iraq as an example of how the United States had to be prepared to act on "murky intelligence" in its war on terrorism.

Wolfowitz was asked in several television interviews about widespread criticism that Washington's rationale for the war -- charges that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons and was collaborating with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda group -- appeared to have been built on shaky foundations.

No such weapons have been found and little concrete evidence has been presented of an al Qaeda link.

"The nature of terrorism is that intelligence about terrorism is murky," Wolfowitz, one of the architects of the Iraq war, said on the "Fox News Sunday" program.

tell me, czar, what's hot in iceland right now? How many whales, dolphins, and sea otters have you slaughtered this year?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Czar
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N27243356.htm

WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) - U.S. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz on Sunday defended the invasion of Iraq as an example of how the United States had to be prepared to act on "murky intelligence" in its war on terrorism.

Wolfowitz was asked in several television interviews about widespread criticism that Washington's rationale for the war -- charges that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons and was collaborating with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda group -- appeared to have been built on shaky foundations.

No such weapons have been found and little concrete evidence has been presented of an al Qaeda link.

"The nature of terrorism is that intelligence about terrorism is murky," Wolfowitz, one of the architects of the Iraq war, said on the "Fox News Sunday" program.

tell me, czar, what's hot in iceland right now? How many whales, dolphins, and sea otters have you slaughtered this year?

And while you are at it, how many wars did you start, and how many did you kill?

 

[Czar]

Dari thanks for making me speechless, that comment of yours is just beyond anythign I have ever seen on this forum

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

The funny thing is, these same people were saying there wasn't a damn thing murky about it before the war started.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Czar
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N27243356.htm

WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) - U.S. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz on Sunday defended the invasion of Iraq as an example of how the United States had to be prepared to act on "murky intelligence" in its war on terrorism.

Wolfowitz was asked in several television interviews about widespread criticism that Washington's rationale for the war -- charges that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons and was collaborating with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda group -- appeared to have been built on shaky foundations.

No such weapons have been found and little concrete evidence has been presented of an al Qaeda link.

"The nature of terrorism is that intelligence about terrorism is murky," Wolfowitz, one of the architects of the Iraq war, said on the "Fox News Sunday" program.

tell me, czar, what's hot in iceland right now? How many whales, dolphins, and sea otters have you slaughtered this year?

Do you care about the ANWR animals also? Or are animals not sacred when oil is involved?

 

[GoodToGo]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Czar
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N27243356.htm

WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) - U.S. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz on Sunday defended the invasion of Iraq as an example of how the United States had to be prepared to act on "murky intelligence" in its war on terrorism.

Wolfowitz was asked in several television interviews about widespread criticism that Washington's rationale for the war -- charges that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons and was collaborating with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda group -- appeared to have been built on shaky foundations.

No such weapons have been found and little concrete evidence has been presented of an al Qaeda link.

"The nature of terrorism is that intelligence about terrorism is murky," Wolfowitz, one of the architects of the Iraq war, said on the "Fox News Sunday" program.

tell me, czar, what's hot in iceland right now? How many whales, dolphins, and sea otters have you slaughtered this year?

Congrats, you win the "most stupid comment of the day award"

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
The funny thing is, these same people were saying there wasn't a damn thing murky about it before the war started.

How could that be? They wouldn't do that, would they?

 

[Gaard]

So now we see a drastic change in defending Bush. It's quite a step going from Clinton to sea otters. Or is it?


BTW - "Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!"

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Gaard
BTW - "Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!"

I know that's the origin, but I always think "Badgers? We don't need no stinking badgers," first.

 

[freegeeks]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Czar
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N27243356.htm

WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) - U.S. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz on Sunday defended the invasion of Iraq as an example of how the United States had to be prepared to act on "murky intelligence" in its war on terrorism.

Wolfowitz was asked in several television interviews about widespread criticism that Washington's rationale for the war -- charges that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons and was collaborating with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda group -- appeared to have been built on shaky foundations.

No such weapons have been found and little concrete evidence has been presented of an al Qaeda link.

"The nature of terrorism is that intelligence about terrorism is murky," Wolfowitz, one of the architects of the Iraq war, said on the "Fox News Sunday" program.

tell me, czar, what's hot in iceland right now? How many whales, dolphins, and sea otters have you slaughtered this year?

Dari ones again in his typical "I'm the greatest moron of all times" style.

Keep them coming, you are hilarious

 

[wirelessenabled]

Let's all repeat after me .....

A dictatorship is where the leaders act on and out their whims.

:disgust::disgust::disgust::disgust:

 

[charrison]

I dont envy his position.

Not acting on murky data could result in another terror attack.

Acting on murky data could result in an unneeded action.

Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: charrison
I dont envy his position.

Not acting on murky data could result in another terror attack.

Acting on murky data could result in an unneeded action.

Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

I agree that this is no easy position. But the cynic bells went off in my head when right before the November elections, the Iraq is threat drums began to beat.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: charrison
I dont envy his position.

Not acting on murky data could result in another terror attack.

Acting on murky data could result in an unneeded action.

Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

I agree that this is no easy position. But the cynic bells went off in my head when right before the November elections, the Iraq is threat drums began to beat.

Watch out bro. I had my head proverbially chopped off here for suggesting that the buildup to the Iraq war last fall was used for *gasp* political gains by the ruling party.

 

[Phuz]

Not acting on murky data could result in another terror attack.

Think about what you just said. Not acting on murky data could result in another terror attack? Acting on murky data could.. uhmm, I dunno... involve illegitimately invading another country. Apply that theory in other forms of law... still think that's a good way of thinking?

"Oh.. well, we're pretty sure you killed that guy.. our intelligence was a little murky, but.. you're a murderer anyway.

Being catch 22'd makes it ok to act on uncertainty? Oh, thats right.. Iraq was such a terrible threat to "homeland security".

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: charrison
I dont envy his position.

Not acting on murky data could result in another terror attack.

Acting on murky data could result in an unneeded action.

Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

I agree that this is no easy position. But the cynic bells went off in my head when right before the November elections, the Iraq is threat drums began to beat.

Watch out bro. I had my head proverbially chopped off here for suggesting that the buildup to the Iraq war last fall was used for *gasp* political gains by the ruling party.

It would be hard to argue that the Iraq propoganda didn't help the Republican cause in November.

 

[Zebo]

You could stop terror tomorrow by leaving them alone and being a fair broker in the ME peace porcess or just leave that alone too.

All I see in our future is an escalation until finally a nuke detonates in one of our larger cities...Then maybe we will sit down like adults a mediate a fair and reasonable settlement for both sides.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: Zebo
You could stop terror tomorrow by leaving them alone and being a fair broker in the ME peace porcess or just leave that alone too.

All I see in our future is an escalation until finally a nuke detonates in one of our larger cities...Then maybe we will sit down like adults a mediate a fair and reasonable settlement for both sides.

We invaded two countries because they killed about 3k people what do you really think if they nuke a city were just going to sit around and talk.

 

[CaptnKirk]

We have succeded in becoming a society of paranoids - where the schizophrenics are in charge.

Our Government, along with the constant bombardment of Sensationalizing News Media has made us a social coward.
Fear ! Danger ! Horror ! Terrorism ! Chipmunks !
Over reaction to everything as a cover up to make those who were asleep at the switch blameless.

There's a chance of something happening so we either gotta hide indoors and never go outside again,
or send the Army out first to kill everything that may or may not be a threat - to make our society safe.

Safe from what ? Our Government is where the root cause of the danger really lies, either through past failed policies -
that are an affront to those who seek revenge, or by just ignoring the real danger when it doesn't fit their definition or timeframe.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Spencer278

Originally posted by: Zebo
You could stop terror tomorrow by leaving them alone and being a fair broker in the ME peace porcess or just leave that alone too.

All I see in our future is an escalation until finally a nuke detonates in one of our larger cities...Then maybe we will sit down like adults a mediate a fair and reasonable settlement for both sides.

We invaded two countries because they killed about 3k people what do you really think if they nuke a city were just going to sit around and talk.

As you sew, so shall ye reap. Violence begets violence. and so on. Seems we are not much more than little children in a sand box after all.

How about if 5 go off? Eventually it will come to a point when mutually assured self destruction will curtail our actions. Like a Baboon even understands self-preservation.

 

[GoodToGo]

Originally posted by: charrison
I dont envy his position.

Not acting on murky data could result in another terror attack.

Acting on murky data could result in an unneeded action.

Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

Good point except that the amount of "unmurky" () data is faaaaar less than the murky data. Investigating more into murky data is acceptable, blowing up countries based on murky data is not.

 

[JellyBaby]

Our Government is where the root cause of the danger really lies

Nothing murky about that statement.

We invaded two countries because they killed about 3k people what do you really think if they nuke a city were just going to sit around and talk.

No, only Afghanistan was attacked because of al-Qeerda. Iraq was conquered for altogether other reasons. If a city was destroyed and Bush is still president...well American troops are stationed in over 100 countries abroad. He has his a robust pick of targets for vengeance's sake.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Gaard
So now we see a drastic change in defending Bush. It's quite a step going from Clinton to sea otters. Or is it?


BTW - "Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!"

That is the quote. Obviously it is a short trip to google for the movie. Treasure of Sierra Madre with Humphrey Bogart

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