With Remembrance Day Around the Corner..

RbSX

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I am proud enough to have many family members serve in my nations military in the past, with remembrance day right around the corner sometimes I think some people should learn about what we've done while cracking those jokes about us.

Salute to a brave and modest nation - Kevin Myers, 'The Sunday Telegraph' LONDON:

Until the deaths of Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan, probably almost no one outside their home country had been aware that Canadian troops are deployed in the region.

And as always, Canada will bury its dead, just as the rest of the world, as always will forget its sacrifice, just as it always forgets nearly everything Canada ever does. It seems that Canada's historic mission is to come to the selfless aid both of its friends and of complete strangers, and then, once the crisis is over, to be well and truly ignored.

Canada is the perpetual wallflower that stands on the edge of the hall, waiting for someone to come and ask her for a dance. A fire breaks out; she risks life and limb to rescue her fellow dancegoers, and suffers serious injuries. But when the hall is repaired and the dancing resumes, there is Canada, the wallflower still, while those she once helped Glamorously cavort across the floor, blithely neglecting her yet again.

That is the price Canada pays for sharing the North American continent with the United States, and for being a selfless friend of Britain in two global conflicts.

For much of the 20th century, Canada was torn in two different directions: It seemed to be a part of the old world, yet had an address in the new one, and that divided identity ensured that it never fully got the gratitude it deserved.

Yet its purely voluntary contribution to the cause of freedom in two world wars was perhaps the greatest of any democracy. Almost 10% of Canada's entire population of seven million people served in the armed forces during the First World War, and nearly 60,000 died. The great Allied victories of 1918 were spearheaded by Canadian troops, perhaps the most capable soldiers in the entire British order of battle.

Canada was repaid for its enormous sacrifice by downright neglect; its unique contribution to victory being absorbed into the popular Memory as somehow or other the work of the 'British.'

The Second World War provided a re-run. The Canadian navy began the war with a half dozen vessels, and ended up policing nearly half of the Atlantic against U-boat attack. More than 120 Canadian warships participated in the Normandy landings, during which 15,000 Canadian soldiers went ashore on D-Day alone.

Canada finished the war with the third-largest navy and the fourth largest air force in the world. The world thanked Canada with the same sublime indifference as it had the previous time.

Canadian participation in the war was acknowledged in film only if it was necessary to give an American actor a part in a campaign in which the United States had clearly not participated - a touching scrupulousness which, of course, Hollywood has since abandoned, as it has any notion of a separate Canadian identity.

So it is a general rule that actors and filmmakers arriving in Hollywood keep their nationality - unless, that is, they are Canadian. Thus Mary Pickford, Walter Huston, Donald Sutherland, Michael J. Fox, William Shatner, Norman Jewison, David Cronenberg, Alex Trebek, Art Linkletter and Dan Aykroyd have in the popular perception become American, and Christopher Plummer, British.

It is as if, in the very act of becoming famous, a Canadian ceases to be Canadian, unless she is Margaret Atwood, who is as unshakably Canadian as a moose, or Celine Dion, for whom Canada has proved quite unable to find any takers.

Moreover, Canada is every bit as querulously alert to the achievements of its sons and daughters as the rest of the world is completely unaware of them. The Canadians proudly say of themselves - and are unheard by anyone else - that 1% of the world's population has provided 10% of the world's peacekeeping forces.

Canadian soldiers in the past half century have been the greatest peacekeepers on Earth - in 39 missions on UN mandates, and six on non-UN peacekeeping duties, from Vietnam to East Timor, from Sinai to Bosnia.

Yet the only foreign engagement that has entered the popular non-Canadian imagination was the sorry affair in Somalia, in which out-of-control paratroopers murdered two Somali infiltrators. Their regiment was then disbanded in disgrace - a uniquely Canadian act of self-abasement for which, naturally, the Canadians received no international credit.

So who today in the United States knows about the stoic and selfless friendship its northern neighbour has given it in Afghanistan?

Rather like Cyrano de Bergerac, Canada repeatedly does honourable things for honourable motives, but instead of being thanked for it, it remains something of a figure of fun. It is the Canadian way, for which Canadians should be proud, yet such honour comes at a high cost. This past year more grieving Canadian families knew that cost all too tragically well.

Lest we forget.
 

Mo0o

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Looking at it from total numbers, Canada's losses in WW1 and WW2 weren't that big compared to the other major nations. That's probably why it doesn't get as much international recognition
 

RbSX

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Looking at it from total numbers, Canada's losses in WW1 and WW2 weren't that big compared to the other major nations. That's probably why it doesn't get as much international recognition

Total numbers sure, but percentages are pretty high. I'm not really doing this for recognition but the tank jokes get old.

 

novasatori

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Looking at it from total numbers, Canada's losses in WW1 and WW2 weren't that big compared to the other major nations. That's probably why it doesn't get as much international recognition

Total numbers sure, but percentages are pretty high. I'm not really doing this for recognition but the tank jokes get old.

Because you live in Canada.

Move, and it will be funny!!

So how is the tank anyways. ;)
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Looking at it from total numbers, Canada's losses in WW1 and WW2 weren't that big compared to the other major nations. That's probably why it doesn't get as much international recognition

Total numbers sure, but percentages are pretty high. I'm not really doing this for recognition but the tank jokes get old.

This is ATOT... no joke ever gets old.
 

meltdown75

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proudly display your poppy as i have.

the countries that our soldiers helped liberate in the world wars remember our sacrifice, and we remember the sacrifices that our troops are making RIGHT NOW.

that is all that matters.
 

BoomerD

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I for one welcome our Canuckistanian overlords!

All Hail The Tank!!

As a veteran myself, I take my hat off for ALL who served the cause of freedom.

(even if it IS our Canuckistan neighbors) ;)
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Madwand1

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The fact that Canada didn't go to war in Iraq despite the pressure is more significant than its participation in Afghanistan. Generation after generation learns and says "lest we forget", and then goes on to glorify the horror that is war to the point that the next generation feels that it's missing something unless it participates in its own glorious war, and the cycle continues. Let's not forget that this one time, Canada did the right thing by not going to war in Iraq.
 

Squisher

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I hold in high esteem almost to a level of reverence all the BC Bud I ever smoked.

I remember you Canada!

 

Tobolo

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When the Canadian nuclear sub got damaged a few years ago I shit a brick. I couldn't believe that they had a nuke sub.
 

Pliablemoose

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Is Remembrance Day that thing where the Canadian life force crystals turn black and the oldest among you is sacrificed on an ice flow?
 

Gothgar

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It is as if, in the very act of becoming famous, a Canadian ceases to be Canadian, unless she is Margaret Atwood, who is as unshakably Canadian as a moose, or Celine Dion, for whom Canada has proved quite unable to find any takers.

lulz
 

ultimatebob

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Perhaps you guys should invade Greenland in order to get some respect! Show those cocky Danes who's the boss!
 

imported_Champ

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Actually our losses in WW1 were met with more political freedom...but yeah Canada kicked ass in WW1 and WW2

When no one else could do it they sent in the Canadians

But Afghanistan has hit close to home, my high school was relatively small but we lost one of our graduates and my sisters friend lost his legs in the war

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R.I.P. Nathan Hornburg
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
If Americans didn't love Canada, we wouldn't poke so much fun at you.

Yeah, kinda like if I didn't love my wife so much, why would I spend so much time beating her?