With $15/hr min in CA, #NoMoreTipping movement has solid footing?

[michal1980]

Why did tipping increase form 15 to 20%

 

[TheSlamma]

Have any of you people experienced food service in places that have no tipping? (VAT)

Without the incentive to get a tip I would easily put my experiences at more than half of the time being sub par service. No tipping is just a bad idea.

 

[BoberFett]

Have any of you people experienced food service in places that have no tipping? (VAT)

Without the incentive to get a tip I would easily put my experiences at more than half of the time being sub par service. No tipping is just a bad idea.

My service is sub par most of the time anyway. So much for tipping improving service.

 

[JSt0rm]

Your eating at the wrong places then. Anyways this is a gradual thing that doesn't become the full 15 till 2022 so I'm pretty sure people are still going to be living on tips.

 

[Ns1]

Have any of you people experienced food service in places that have no tipping? (VAT)

Japan has the best service in the world and no tipping culture.

 

[JSt0rm]

Japan has the best service in the world and no tipping culture.

Come on. 3 star Michelin restaurants have the best service in the world... and they are all over the world.

 

[Moonbeam]

My service is sub par most of the time anyway. So much for tipping improving service.

If you act in restaurants like you do here, I'm surprised you haven't been poisoned. Most service type people, while they may see humanity in truer colors than most, don't have eyes as sharp as mine that can see the pearl in the swine.

Just kidding of course......wanted to say that before somebody mean did. You should try to lead with your right and not with hind end, pants down and butt showing.

 

[Nashemon]

do u tip the great smiling friendly Home Depot/Lowes employee who helped you locate the item you wanted?
or offered a suggestion that helped you out a lot.
no?

why not?
he makes the same minimum wage in CA as servers.

answer:
he's paid to do his job.
you support his paycheck by buying his employer's products

I've personally worked at Home Depot and Best Buy, in two vastly different states (NC and NY). At neither of them was I ever allowed to accept tips from customers per company regulations.

 

[Ns1]

I've personally worked at Home Depot and Best Buy, in two vastly different states (NC and NY). At neither of them was I ever allowed to accept tips from customers per company regulations.

so what you're saying is, you did your job for the wage that you were offered? and didn't come to expect handouts from your customers?


goddamn, what a concept.

 

[Exophase]

Why did tipping increase form 15 to 20%

I don't know but it did and it's probably going to keep slowly rising :|

 

[OverVolt]

Why did tipping increase form 15 to 20%

Because instead of getting tipped 15% and just being happy I now just avoid restaurants with waiters like the plague cause I ain't tipping 20%.

I can understand a minimum tip, like you go in there and get some $20 deal or something. $3 would be a pretty low tip for serving two people so just round up to $4 or $5 or something as a minimum tip depending on the service... 5 bucks for 20 minutes waiting the table. Thats fine. If its like $50-70+ for two people 15% is fine, IMO. So like an $8 tip.

 

[KMFJD]

Have any of you people experienced food service in places that have no tipping? (VAT)

Without the incentive to get a tip I would easily put my experiences at more than half of the time being sub par service. No tipping is just a bad idea.

Yes and the service has been fine, i've lived for months dining out in Australia/New Zealand/SE Asia and Europe and never had to tip and never had a bad experience because i couldn't 'tip' someone, the whole notion that you can control the quality of service by tip is absurd to me. If the server was consistantly doing a bad job, why would the restaurant keep them?

 

[JSt0rm]

Yes and the service has been fine, i've lived for months dining out in Australia/New Zealand/SE Asia and Europe and never had to tip and never had a bad experience because i couldn't 'tip' someone, the whole notion that you can control the quality of service by tip is absurd to me. If the server was consistantly doing a bad job, why would the restaurant keep them?

They wouldnt. However there is a knowledge difference from the waiter who works at dennys and the waiter who works at gramercy tavern.

the waiter who works at gramercy tavern makes more money because the meals are more expensive so 20% of more is more.

 

[werepossum]

Why did tipping increase form 15 to 20%

I don't think it did. 15% is pretty standard. However, if you're rewarding better than standard service, you need to tip better than standard. Also, there can be other contributing factors. My wife and I like to sit on the same side, and we tend to eat slowly. If we're tying up a table that could seat four and staying longer than the average, then we need to tip more generously to be fair. Also, if you're happy, you want people around you to be happy too, and waiters are happy when they get good tips.

They wouldnt. However there is a knowledge difference from the waiter who works at dennys and the waiter who works at gramercy tavern.

the waiter who works at gramercy tavern makes more money because the meals are more expensive so 20% of more is more.

Yeah, more expensive restaurants are selling service as much as food. With Denny's, it's more "Hey, we're open; you should just be happy your drunk ass didn't stumble into a drug house or a hardware store. Now pick your $4 meal by its number, and remember it's all cooked in the same grease so don't be asking me if it's good or if it's fresh or if that's a real finger." Usually delivered by a waitress with fresh stitches.

 

[Moonbeam]

I always tip my Fugu chef 30%.

 

[JSt0rm]

Yeah, more expensive restaurants are selling service as much as food. With Denny's, it's more "Hey, we're open; you should just be happy your drunk ass didn't stumble into a drug house or a hardware store. Now pick your $4 meal by its number, and remember it's all cooked in the same grease so don't be asking me if it's good or if it's fresh or if that's a real finger." Usually delivered by a waitress with fresh stitches.

sounds like you have a dennys story

 

[bozack]

I don't think it did. 15% is pretty standard. However, if you're rewarding better than standard service, you need to tip better than standard. Also, there can be other contributing factors. My wife and I like to sit on the same side, and we tend to eat slowly. If we're tying up a table that could seat four and staying longer than the average, then we need to tip more generously to be fair. Also, if you're happy, you want people around you to be happy too, and waiters are happy when they get good tips.


Yeah, more expensive restaurants are selling service as much as food. With Denny's, it's more "Hey, we're open; you should just be happy your drunk ass didn't stumble into a drug house or a hardware store. Now pick your $4 meal by its number, and remember it's all cooked in the same grease so don't be asking me if it's good or if it's fresh or if that's a real finger." Usually delivered by a waitress with fresh stitches.

possibly depends on the area as here it is 20% minimum and I know some who advocate for 25% or more and that is just for standard service.

a little dated but still holds true for my area http://www.today.com/food/25-new-standard-tipping-depends-where-you-eat-1B5989931

 

[werepossum]

sounds like you have a dennys story

lol Not really. Pretty much had a hard-on for Denny's since that Secret Service debacle. Besides, I'm a Waffle House man.

possibly depends on the area as here it is 20% minimum and I know some who advocate for 25% or more and that is just for standard service.

a little dated but still holds true for my area http://www.today.com/food/25-new-standard-tipping-depends-where-you-eat-1B5989931

Wow, did not know that. I'm turning into my father.

Worst tip story: I was the first person into a Subway in Florida in the mid nineties, literally waiting until the fat, surly kid shows up twenty minutes after the posted time. Last thing he did before finally opening the door was put up a huge plastic jar with "TIPS PLEASE" scrawled on it and prime it with a couple fives. If you're paid at or above minimum wage, do the absolute minimum required to get by, display a surly attitude, can't be bothered with more than a demand, and have the nerve to pretend other people are tipping you fives, no way in hell I'm tipping you anything. On the other hand, here in Chattanooga we had a college student in a Subway who was always entertaining and just generally a pleasure to be around, plus he made very good sandwiches. We always tipped him because he made superior sandwiches but even more importantly, made what is generally boring into an entertaining experience.

 

[trenchfoot]

I always tip my Fugu chef 30%.

A very wise and honorable thing to do.

That reminds me of this experience I had visiting a very close friend of mine from back home at Korat while I was on R&R.

He was a jet mech there and I noticed how well the fighter pilots treated them, with cases of beer stacked all over the place, black market goodies galore, etc.

Well, I asked him why and he mentioned how those pilots really disliked getting mechanical problems over North Vietnam, thus possibly making their sorties at best a rectum clenching ride back to base or a one way trip to the Hanoi Hilton.

 

[JEDIYoda]

don't understand why people still tip in cities where the servers are paid more than the fed minimum wage.

now that CA is the 1st state to require everyone in it to be paid at least double the fed minimum, how long will a majority of people there finally stop this tipping nonsense?
#Tired of everyone having their hand out

You have no clue what you are talking about! In 2020 that's when 15/hr is set to start!

 

[JEDIYoda]

unfortunately, some small restaurants don't.
u basically work there for tips.

I prefer EVERYONE being paid the minimum wage outright, and eliminating the tipping entitlement mentality altogether

your also cheap!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Why should a waiter pay less in taxes then someone working at homedepot?

you also don`t know how things work!

 

[woolfe9998]

social norms evolve, usually for the better.
Been to places with WHITES ONLY signs lately?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the cultural and political forces aligned against "Whites Only" signs are a tad stronger than this "anti-tipping movement." Frankly I never heard of it until I read this thread. Strangely enough I HAVE heard of the civil rights movement.

Good luck changing this particular social norm.

 

[blankslate]

My service is sub par most of the time anyway. So much for tipping improving service.

If you act in restaurants like you do here, I'm surprised you haven't been poisoned.

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[waggy]

I'm against tipping. The idea is great. to bad the reality of it so fucked up. We should not be the main source of payment for waiters. a TIP is a bonus for outstanding (NOT average) service. It's so bad that you are expected to tip on shitty service.