Witcher 2 devs claim 100% accurate pirate identifaction -PCGamer

[OVerLoRDI]

and demand money from thousands.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/12/15/t...el=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0

I'm not creating this thread to discuss whether it is okay to pirate a game or not, because it isn't. Game creators need compensation for their work, and especially game creators who support their game after launch to the extent CDP RED has.

This whole method of demanding compensation under the threat of legal action feels far too much like extortion to me. Especially if the amount demand exceeds the cost of the game:

The price CD Projekt is asking through their lawyers is slightly higher than what gamers have to pay in stores, to say the least. Over the past several months thousands of alleged BitTorrent users in Germany were asked to cough up 911.80 euros ($1230) to pay off their apparent debt to the company.

http://torrentfreak.com/drm-free-witcher-2-cashes-in-on-bittorrent-pirates-111207/

~$1200 for damages feels far too high. I'd feel much better about these letters if the demands were for the original price of the game.

Also 100% identification feels unlikely.

Also such the cost of fighting the charges may be more than $1200. So in a sense you are trapped, the cheaper option is to admit you are guilty and pay the $1200 than pay more to prove your innocent. Maybe that is where they get their 100% accuracy claim from :hmm:

Thoughts?

Also The Witcher 2 is on sale on steam right now for $24. It is a great game

 

[lord_emperor]

Grandmother: "I didn't know this rooooter had un-crypted wire-less, the nice salesman told me it was what I needed to go with my new Dell hard drive. Shouldn't this be covered by the extended warranty?"

 

[JamesV]

Look at movies - $250,000 fine and 5 years in prison for pirating a movie. Even though this max is never granted on a single movie (afaik), legitimate users only have to watch a couple of warning screens.

I think what the Witcher devs are asking for is a fair amount, because legitimate users are slammed with all kinds of nonsense and DRM. Hit the pirates hard I say; screw em for screwing me.

 

[Ross Ridge]

On the other hand, $1200 wouldn't come close to what it costs to identify and collect money from a pirate. It's the pirates' own fault for choosing this much less efficient means of billing.

 

[videogames101]

TLDR you can't identify people based on IPs.

 

[Modular]

Ha! I love it and hope it comes here too.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Good for them, but nothing is fool proof.

 

[Corporate Thug]

of the $1200, a majority goes to legal fees and collection I would wager. I don't really agree with it but if you didn't do it, you can fight it and recover your attorney's fees if you prevail.

 

[Ns1]

and demand money from thousands.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/12/15/t...el=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0

I'm not creating this thread to discuss whether it is okay to pirate a game or not, because it isn't. Game creators need compensation for their work, and especially game creators who support their game after launch to the extent CDP RED has.

This whole method of demanding compensation under the threat of legal action feels far too much like extortion to me. Especially if the amount demand exceeds the cost of the game:


http://torrentfreak.com/drm-free-witcher-2-cashes-in-on-bittorrent-pirates-111207/

~$1200 for damages feels far too high. I'd feel much better about these letters if the demands were for the original price of the game.

Also 100% identification feels unlikely.

Also such the cost of fighting the charges may be more than $1200. So in a sense you are trapped, the cheaper option is to admit you are guilty and pay the $1200 than pay more to prove your innocent. Maybe that is where they get their 100% accuracy claim from :hmm:

Thoughts?

Also The Witcher 2 is on sale on steam right now for $24. It is a great game

1. I'm sure it costs the dev more than $1200 for legal costs
2. Don't pirate if you don't want to get sued

 

[CPA]

1. I'm sure it costs the dev more than $1200 for legal costs
2. Don't pirate if you don't want to get sued

Both of these.

 

[BladeVenom]

TLDR you can't identify people based on IPs.

Exactly. I claim, they're full of 100% bullshit.

 

[sigurros81]

1. I'm sure it costs the dev more than $1200 for legal costs
2. Don't pirate if you don't want to get sued

No joke. I swear some of you lack a single ounce of logic or decency claiming that $1200 is extortion.

By that shitty logic, going through life as a thief will yield the best outcome because if you get caught, you don't get punished, all you have to do is pay what normal decent people paid, the full price for a game...On the other hand, if you don't get caught, you're on top of the world with your 'free' shit.

Fucking idiots.

 

[spaceman]

theyd have to pay me to pirate that dreck

 

[shurato]

theyd have to pay me to pirate that dreck

Have you played the game? Everyone has their own opinions but your basically calling the game trash because its a really bad game or because you don't believe in CDProjekt take this course of action? Well imo it's one of the best games I've ever played and people should purchase it legally to support PC Gaming if anything.

 

[crownjules]

Just to note, the title doesn't mean they can identify 100% of the people that have pirated TW2. They're just saying that they have some method that can prove 100% that certain people have pirated it.

 

[spaceman]

Have you played the game? Everyone has their own opinions but your basically calling the game trash because its a really bad game or because you don't believe in CDProjekt take this course of action? Well imo it's one of the best games I've ever played and people should purchase it legally to support PC Gaming if anything.

i paid $5 for the witcher 1
which was $10 more than it was worth(IMO)
if i wanted to be a bad combat walking penis
id dress up in a suit
it has its fans, it has its dtractors
good for you for liking it.
i think the character sucks
the combat was laughably bad
and the 'tude of the game was grating.

 

[Worthington]

thankfully critical reviews don't agree with you. More games like Witcher, not less.

 

[waggy]

witcher 1 ruled. i feel ripped off when i got 2.

anyway i put them in the same class as the RIAA. nothing more then a mafia tactics

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

They cannot ID people using IP addresses. I'm saying this as somebody who actually bought the game for full retail.

 

[Bateluer]

This is one case where I'll side with the devs for certain. They delivered two awesome games, easily the best titles released in their launch years. Delivered with no DRM at all, and supported with several large patches and content updates. And they went on sale early and often. If you pirate these games even as CDP bends over backwards to make sure you get an awesome game, you deserve to pay them far more than 1200 bucks.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Look at movies - $250,000 fine and 5 years in prison for pirating a movie. Even though this max is never granted on a single movie (afaik), legitimate users only have to watch a couple of warning screens.

I think what the Witcher devs are asking for is a fair amount, because legitimate users are slammed with all kinds of nonsense and DRM. Hit the pirates hard I say; screw em for screwing me.

Hurr, lets blame pirates instead of devs because they actually get better products than legit paying users.

Case in point: Pirated Skyrim is better because it doesn't have to deal with the Bethesda patching incompetence.

 

[JamesV]

Hurr, lets blame pirates instead of devs because they actually get better products than legit paying users.

Case in point: Pirated Skyrim is better because it doesn't have to deal with the Bethesda patching incompetence.

Care to back that up with some facts we can read elsewhere? Forum posts do not equal facts btw. Pirates getting better products then us because of Skyrim?

You called me out for saying (in effect) people that pirate suck, and I'm supposed to believe pirates get a better version, or did you mean to say "Im entitled to steal what I want, because I'm unhappy"?

Herp, derp. Sorry, is that the correct response?

 

[poohbear]

its an awesome game, a very rare jewel infact, and well worth it at full price!(which was 49.99 not 59.99) i actually felt sad that i got it on sale because i've paid more for alot crappier games! They also went out of their way to ensure DRM was'nt intrusive, even removing it. And then a few months later they showed it had a 4:1 pirating ratio. Disgusting! They also patched it and supported long after release, they really dont deserve this!! i wish them the best and hope the pirates pay them their due.

 

[sigurros81]

its an awesome game, a very rare jewel infact, and well worth it at full price!(which was 49.99 not 59.99) i actually felt sad that i got it on sale because i've paid more for alot crappier games! They also went out of their way to ensure DRM was'nt intrusive, even removing it. And then a few months later they showed it had a 4:1 pirating ratio. Disgusting! They also patched it and supported long after release, they really dont deserve this!! i wish them the best and hope the pirates pay them their due.

Couldn't agree more. These guys really love their fans and truly are passionate about their craft. I do my part and would love to do more to support these guys, not just as a gamer, but just as a person appreciating dedication and artistry.

 

[Pacman4]

Rude awakening, lol, granted I pirate movies/TV shows, but I still have 50 blurays and hundreds of DVD's.