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NoStateofMind

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Just received my EVGA GTX 560 Ti (448) and installed last night. Ever since then I have had scaling/blurry issues. Apparently this has been a problem with nVidia drivers since the dawn of time. Okay I'm obviously exaggerating but its been around long enough that there is no excuse for it any longer.


My system specs:

i5-750 stock clocks
EVGA P55 SLI
4GB RAM generic
EVGA GTX 560 Ti (448)
Soundblaster Sound card PCI
LG 32LH40 HDTV (1080P)

I'll try to explain in detail and hopefully get a fix.

When connected with DVI-PC Input (VGA)

Screen is off center to the right. A black bar has taken over about 1-2 inches on the left side. Control panel adjustments only move image left but not the actual displayed image (cuts off start menu instead of complete screen shift). Bright side is there is no fuzziness to the screen. Tried to follow the 2009 EDID fix that was editing the .inf on the driver installer package but wouldn't install. Directions weren't accurate either since it was XP and old.

When using HDMI directly

I am able to adjust the screen to fit in full however everything is blurred. Some things you notice it less like a photo or watching netflix but text is horrible to look at. The EDID that I read in the registry matches the TV I have. So its recognized. Plays sound fine. Adjusting resolution in windows and nVidia control panel doesn't help.

I like the card but I'm not impressed with drivers. Have to use beta drivers because this GPU isn't supported with the latest certified ones. I guess I have two choices. Find a work around or buy a true LCD monitor.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks for reading.
 
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T_Yamamoto

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Why did you get that video card? Its just a failed 570.

Return it and buy a 570 :p

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
 

Arkadrel

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@T Yamamoto,

that wont solve his problems, if its due to the arch/drivers/something,
him getting a new card (afaik) wont solve this issue.

Need to find the root of the problem first though....
maybe its just some option setting or something, that needs a change?
 

sandorski

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Protip- Both AMD and Nvidia have persistent issues. Haven't heard of this particular problem with Nvidia, so I suspect there is some kind of fix for this. In short though, choose one, learn the issues, live with them. Neither is perfect.
 

NoStateofMind

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Protip- Both AMD and Nvidia have persistent issues. Haven't heard of this particular problem with Nvidia, so I suspect there is some kind of fix for this. In short though, choose one, learn the issues, live with them. Neither is perfect.

No one is looking for perfection only for what works. ATi requires minimal adjustments and works fine. One has been chosen, the issues have been learned, and a solution is being determined by this thread. Did any of my posts suggest otherwise? I am actually confused as to the reason for your addition to this thread. No helpful information found. "Protip"?

EDIT: ATi wasn't specified as an option for fix so I'm not looking to move back as a result of this bug. It's either find a solution software wise or replace display. So any information regarding that fix I would be grateful to get.
 
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sandorski

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No one is looking for perfection only for what works. ATi requires minimal adjustments and works fine. One has been chosen, the issues have been learned, and a solution is being determined by this thread. Did any of my posts suggest otherwise? I am actually confused as to the reason for your addition to this thread. No helpful information found. "Protip"?

hehe, sorry then. Just tired of the "Company X is bad" threads. Thought this was more of the same.
 

Grooveriding

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Have you tried setting this ?

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I initially had my computer hooked up to a Pioneer Kuro and had no issues, but once I connected it to an LCD, I did not have blurring, but colour was horrible.

Setting this setting to 'full-screen videos' fixed it.
 

NoStateofMind

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Have you tried setting this ?

nMd7w.jpg


I initially had my computer hooked up to a Pioneer Kuro and had no issues, but once I connected it to an LCD, I did not have blurring, but colour was horrible.

Setting this setting to 'full-screen videos' fixed it.

Actually I did initially have that problem with HDMI until I adjusted my TV's brightness/color settings. Color is correct now but its a fuzzy/slightly distorted image QQ
 

Grooveriding

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Actually I did initially have that problem with HDMI until I adjusted my TV's brightness/color settings. Color is correct now but its a fuzzy/slightly distorted image QQ

Well that sucks, there is the very rare chance your HDMI cable is borked, but that is simple to check using another device.

I know sometimes there are EDID issues. Nvidia drivers have had EDID issues with my LG246WP-BN monitor as long as I have had it. I have to manually do a registry hack to get the image to not be shifted off screen.
 

Yukmouth

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I had a display issue with a flat pannel. I was overclocking a GTX 460 and the oc failed. When I got back to windows everything was SCREWED. Blurry txt, weird sized desktop icons.

I had to do a clean install of the drivers to fix it, but that cleared the issue right up so you might give that a shot.
 

kami

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This is your TV blurring things I think . Couple things to try:

-make sure the HDMI input you are using supports PC input. On many TVs some ports do not. HDMI 1 is almost always safe but check your manual.
-turn off all bullshit features such as dynamic contrast, color enhances, motion enhance 120hz stuff, and also turn all sharpening off completely. These can really affect text quality
-make sure no scaling or overscan is being done. Most TVs have a setting that lets you disable it completely. This will be in the same menu as aspect ratio and stretch options
-some TVs require that you name the input you are using to "PC" in order for it to operate like a monitor
- some TVs need a DVI to HDMI cable instead of a HDMI to HDMI cable to work properly in PC mode. I would not recommend using analogue VGA

It's also worth noting that almost all HDTVs do not support 4:4:4 chroma sub sampling which makes certain colors of text blurry or unreadable against certain backgrounds. Red is usually the worst.
 
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Hauk

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This is your TV blurring things I think . Couple things to try:

-make sure the HDMI input you are using supports PC input. On many TVs some ports do not. HDMI 1 is almost always safe but check your manual.
-turn off all bullshit features such as dynamic contrast, color enhances, motion enhance 120hz stuff, and also turn all sharpening off completely. These can really affect text quality
-make sure no scaling or overscan is being done. Most TVs have a setting that lets you disable it completely. This will be in the same menu as aspect ratio and stretch options
-some TVs require that you name the input you are using to "PC" in order for it to operate like a monitor
- some TVs need a DVI to HDMI cable instead of a HDMI to HDMI cable to work properly in PC mode. I would not recommend using analogue VGA

It's also worth noting that almost all HDTVs do not support 4:4:4 chroma sub sampling which makes certain colors of text blurry or unreadable against certain backgrounds. Red is usually the worst.

Something from this.

That first response is rubbish. I read a newegg review warning 560ti 448 was a failed gpu, don't buy. Crap!!! How many gpus have been sold by both camps that have disabled architecture? Wow..
 

spinejam

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I had a similar issue w/ a gtx560ti on a westinghouse 24" monitor. I couldn't get it to work so i swapped the card w/ a 6950 and all is well. Wish i could help you more, but that's the only solution that worked for me. Some card-display combo's just don't work well together.
 

badb0y

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Not sure what you mean I had this issue with nVidia back in the FX 5000 series days but recently when I got my GTX 460 I didn't see any blurriness.
 

nervx

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i had this problem for a year so i never updated from the last working driver i could find. however after being forced to update for BF3 i figured out whats wrong and how to fix it. basically the resolutions/reresh rates that are included with the drivers are messed up.

follow these steps on how to make/edit custom resolutions:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/33641-screen-refresh-rate-custom-nvidia-brand.html

the key is to make sure the resolution is the same as the active pixels. also make sure the total pixels is relatively close to the resolution you want. it has to be slightly bigger but for some reason by default nvidia put in inflated numbers and it messes up the screen like described in the OP.


if that doesnt work, Mod the new driver. Backup nv_disp.inf (or nv4_disp.inf for WinXP) then use notepad to open it. Search for nv_modes and nv_r&t (search to end of file, it could have more than one line), replace them with the ones from an older driver like 197.45. When you install the mod driver, you'll get a warning. Just ignore it. after that you'll notice only a few resolutions available. now create a custom resolution with the instructions above.
 

bryanW1995

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Something from this.

That first response is rubbish. I read a newegg review warning 560ti 448 was a failed gpu, don't buy. Crap!!! How many gpus have been sold by both camps that have disabled architecture? Wow..

That "560ti 448 is a failed gpu" stuff cracks me up. 570 is a failed 580. 6950 is a failed 6970. 2500k is a failed 2600k. etc etc etc. By this logic then we should all just overspend on the highest performing part instead of taking value/budget into account.
 

skipsneeky2

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Just received my EVGA GTX 560 Ti (448) and installed last night. Ever since then I have had scaling/blurry issues. Apparently this has been a problem with nVidia drivers since the dawn of time. Okay I'm obviously exaggerating but its been around long enough that there is no excuse for it any longer.


My system specs:

i5-750 stock clocks
EVGA P55 SLI
4GB RAM generic
EVGA GTX 560 Ti (448)
Soundblaster Sound card PCI
LG 32LH40 HDTV (1080P)

I'll try to explain in detail and hopefully get a fix.

When connected with DVI-PC Input (VGA)

Screen is off center to the right. A black bar has taken over about 1-2 inches on the left side. Control panel adjustments only move image left but not the actual displayed image (cuts off start menu instead of complete screen shift). Bright side is there is no fuzziness to the screen. Tried to follow the 2009 EDID fix that was editing the .inf on the driver installer package but wouldn't install. Directions weren't accurate either since it was XP and old.

When using HDMI directly

I am able to adjust the screen to fit in full however everything is blurred. Some things you notice it less like a photo or watching netflix but text is horrible to look at. The EDID that I read in the registry matches the TV I have. So its recognized. Plays sound fine. Adjusting resolution in windows and nVidia control panel doesn't help.

I like the card but I'm not impressed with drivers. Have to use beta drivers because this GPU isn't supported with the latest certified ones. I guess I have two choices. Find a work around or buy a true LCD monitor.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks for reading.

I have my newly purchased dell 23'' s2330mx hooked up via vga right now as well and i had that black bar as well going into my monitor menu it autoadjusted itself when i selected that option and presto problem fixed.

Not a driver issue i thought the same thing at first as well but tinker with the monitor/t.v settings also i am using a gtx560 ti latest beta.
 

FalseChristian

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I have a 60" 120Hz LED monitor at a resolution of 5120x3200 and I've never ever had a problem with nVidia's drivers.
 

MentalIlness

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I had this problem with a 8800GTS 640. Blurry text and stuff. I switched DVI ports on the card and everything was fine. The same goes for my brother and his GTX460 1GB.
 

Majcric

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Just received my EVGA GTX 560 Ti (448) and installed last night. Ever since then I have had scaling/blurry issues. Apparently this has been a problem with nVidia drivers since the dawn of time. Okay I'm obviously exaggerating but its been around long enough that there is no excuse for it any longer.


My system specs:

i5-750 stock clocks
EVGA P55 SLI
4GB RAM generic
EVGA GTX 560 Ti (448)
Soundblaster Sound card PCI
LG 32LH40 HDTV (1080P)

I'll try to explain in detail and hopefully get a fix.

When connected with DVI-PC Input (VGA)

Screen is off center to the right. A black bar has taken over about 1-2 inches on the left side. Control panel adjustments only move image left but not the actual displayed image (cuts off start menu instead of complete screen shift). Bright side is there is no fuzziness to the screen. Tried to follow the 2009 EDID fix that was editing the .inf on the driver installer package but wouldn't install. Directions weren't accurate either since it was XP and old.

When using HDMI directly

I am able to adjust the screen to fit in full however everything is blurred. Some things you notice it less like a photo or watching netflix but text is horrible to look at. The EDID that I read in the registry matches the TV I have. So its recognized. Plays sound fine. Adjusting resolution in windows and nVidia control panel doesn't help.

I like the card but I'm not impressed with drivers. Have to use beta drivers because this GPU isn't supported with the latest certified ones. I guess I have two choices. Find a work around or buy a true LCD monitor.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks for reading.

I know you didn't ask if you should return your card and replace it with something else. But I do agree that getting away from that chip would be the most viable option. Try grabbing a 6950 or gtx 570 if possible.
 

lsv

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I had a blurring issue with my old 5750 and current 6950 but it was easily fixed, the ATI drivers have a scaling option, it was defaulting to -15% so my LCD would stretch the image 15% to fill the screen, it was really blurry. Once I set the scaling to 0% everything was fine, I re-ran auto adjust on my LCD and true 1080p was seen at 1:1.

Is there a scaling option within Nvidia drivers?
 

Majcric

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Why? A gtx 560 ti 448 is nearly identical to a gtx 570.

The GTX 570 will have a wider range of drivers to choose from resulting in better driver support. Being that the GTX 560 ti 448core is fairly new a lot of users are having some difficulty finding drivers for the newer games. And IMO, I think the GTX 570 would be less prone to the infamous TDR error.