Wisconsin TRYING to right the ship

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fskimospy

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It gets worse. From what I understand, if the assembly passes their impeachment with a simple majority, she is removed from her duties immediately. If she is impeached by the senate, a replacement is appointed by the governor.

So naturally the plan will be for the assembly to pass their simple majority, and for the senate to not take up the impeachment proceedings, ensuring 3-3 split between conservatives and liberal justices.

Democracy is pretty much dead in WI outside of statewide elections, and Republicans are doing what they can on that front as well.
Yes, if they do that her only recourse will be a federal lawsuit to defend her first amendment rights. Under current SCOTUS precedent this is a slam dunk case however it's entirely possible the current SCOTUS will Calvinball its way to saying it's fine.

If she's not able to break this gerrymander then yes, democracy in Wisconsin is over for the legislative branch, and I don't think that's hyperbole. If only one party can ever win that's not a democracy.
 

KMFJD

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Why Republicans Could Impeach a Liberal Judge Before She’s Heard a Case​


The push, just five weeks after Justice Janet Protasiewicz joined the court and before she has heard a single case, serves as a last-ditch effort to stop the new 4-to-3 liberal majority from throwing out Republican-drawn state legislative maps and legalizing abortion in Wisconsin.

Republicans would control all levers of the impeachment process.
They hold a 29-seat majority in the State Assembly, where a majority is required to impeach state officials, and a two-thirds majority in the State Senate, the precise number of votes needed to convict and remove someone impeached by the Assembly.


Jesus Christ at the power grab by the Repubs. :eek:
And the sheepie voters will probably forget in the next election cycle :(

Good news, GOP missed the deadline, if they actually do go through with this then Evers get's to appoint a new one to serve until '31
 

Thump553

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Noncontiguous voting districts (meaning they can cherry pick who to include/exclude in a district pretty much regardless of where they live)-I was absolutely shocked when I found out WI had those-then I was even more shocked to learn they aren't the only state with them. Without a Supreme Court enforcing voting rules it is pretty much a fraud to label the USA a democracy-despite what we were all repeated taught in school.

Congrats to WI for starting to right their ship of state. Don't become complacent. It's amazing to me a state that proudly elected Socialist governors a century ago could have fallen so far so fast.
 

K1052

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People always complained about Dems gerrymandering IL but even we never did that island bullshit.
 
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Moonbeam

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Wild how we have "conservative" and "liberal" judges in this country. Should be that facts are facts and laws and constitutions say what they say. Probably too much to ask for.
The problem is that it is easier for conservatives to be partisan than it is for liberals owing to the way their brains differ. Self professed conservatives have larger development of the right amygdala associated with the experience of fear than self confessed liberals while the reverse is true of the respective sizes of the cingulate. There it is larger in those liberals and is associated with the capacity to suppress fear in favor of reason in ego threatening situations. You will always find liberal judges to be inherently capable of unbiased judgment than among conservative judges. This is also why you will hear charges of judicial activism being charged against liberals because of projection. I am charging the opposite, here, but based on peer reviewed science, not projection. Conservatives will be sure, I am sure, not to ever allow into consciousness these scientific facts. It hurts their pride to be called biased.
 

Jaskalas

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Congrats to WI for starting to right their ship of state. Don't become complacent. It's amazing to me a state that proudly elected Socialist governors a century ago could have fallen so far so fast.
A century?
California was the land of Reagan.
Now Democrats have long held a two thirds super majority.
 

Moonbeam

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The RNC donors probably paid her off. Not sure why the DNC donors don't start doing the same thing where they can. Just kidding. If someone paid a Republican to switch sides it would be the biggest issue in the world for at least 4 years. We'd never hear the end of it.
On the contrary I believe the Democratic party should set up a go fund me for justices to tap if they vote the right way. A few bucks from millions of people would cost the 1% to have to up the anti so high conservatives judges could buy their own islands and retire.
 

HomerJS

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On the contrary I believe the Democratic party should set up a go fund me for justices to tap if they vote the right way. A few bucks from millions of people would cost the 1% to have to up the anti so high conservatives judges could buy their own islands and retire.
You mean a Harlen Crowesq go fund me. Same things pubs already doing except fewer donors
 

Moonbeam

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A century?
California was the land of Reagan.
Now Democrats have long held a two thirds super majority.
Propaganda only works up to the point where the shit gets so high it flows into your ears and you become deaf to it. Then the eyes take over as you lift your head back to keep your nose above it. The Republican Party drank cyanide when it divided the country based of fear of the other race. Our strength depended on 'out of the many one'. Republicans have been traitors for years and years and years. Time wounds all heels.
 

Moonbeam

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You mean a Harlen Crowesq go fund me. Same things pubs already doing except fewer donors
I don't know. I was just thinking if justice if for sale then Democrats should use market forces to drive up the price. Just trying to think within the system. The winners certainly don't want to change it.
 

HomerJS

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I don't know. I was just thinking if justice if for sale then Democrats should use market forces to drive up the price. Just trying to think within the system. The winners certainly don't want to change it.
I bet the Democratic base could come up enough funds to line the pockets of left leaning judges. Just be open about it. Say, "justices are already on the take with luxury trips, gifts and backdoor loans that are never paid back so we are just getting into the game".

I would gladly chip into that fund.
 

Moonbeam

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I bet the Democratic base could come up enough funds to line the pockets of left leaning judges. Just be open about it. Say, "justices are already on the take with luxury trips, gifts and backdoor loans that are never paid back so we are just getting into the game".

I would gladly chip into that fund.
I don't want to buy left wing judges. They are already committed to a faithful interpretation of the law. It's the conservatives I want to offer the better bribes in exchange for proper voting. All evidence points to the fact that at least some of them can be bought.
 
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HomerJS

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Just a reminder how Republicans rigged the game in the past.
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Pohemi

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New maps drawn. Of course Rethugs are crying about being "forced to agree".

JFC. Cheat, and then cry foul when it's reversed. Typical.
 
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Moonbeam

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Those ideals are based on an age old American delusion that humans are better than we truly are.
Sooner or later, humanity catches up with us.

Impartiality is for the ignorant.
In the age of information, and being able to instantly communicate to anyone on the planet... there is no where to hide from partisanship. From the worst aspects of human nature dialed up to 11 and being spread like the plague to every corner of the earth.

You are either with us, or against us. Is that not so?
As with any new disease, it takes time for the body to develop immunity. Automated telephones gave us robocalls. Slowly we are working to end them with a growing awareness the ultimate cure. We will find an answer to internet disease where everybody, no matter how mentally ill appears to have equal voice. You keep judging humanity on how you find us at present, in part your own personal projection that we are all doomed. It's just your own self hate shining back to you as a pessimistic state. Everything you fear has already happened. We all live with the fear it will happen again and we create what we fear, What you fear are worries your mind creates. Relax and smell the roses.