Wisconsin Judge race

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cubby1223

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judges voted in to make partisan ideological decisions, not constitutional & legal decisions...

Would be very interested to know what would have happened if Kloppenburg won, and with all the union and out of state money she still declared Gov. Walker's actions lawful :p First we'd have all the usual suspects coming onto this forum declaring Kloppenburg evil with a hidden agenda to destroy this country :D
 

Fear No Evil

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*sigh*

judges voted in to make partisan ideological decisions, not constitutional & legal decisions...

Would be very interested to know what would have happened if Kloppenburg won, and with all the union and out of state money she still declared Gov. Walker's actions lawful :p First we'd have all the usual suspects coming onto this forum declaring Kloppenburg evil with a hidden agenda to destroy this country :D

Prosser has been a Supreme Corut Judge in WI for the past 12 years. I haven't seen any indication that HE has been partisan. Most of his time in office was under a Democrat as Governor. However, the supports of Kloppenburg were very clear they wanted her to declare Walker's bill unconstitutional. If anyone was being elected for partisan ideological reasons it was HER. There were a lot more qualified people on the liberal side of things than her. The unions and the Dems knew they could control her and she would be a good little soldier.
 

cubby1223

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I'm not making a distinction between sides, just that this was turned into a partisan campaign to define ideological policy. Happened in Illinois last Nov. in a few state judicial races, some *very* nasty attack campaigns based on ideology, not legality.

It's probably how it's always trended, only now it is more out in the open?

A percentage of people who voted for Kloppenburg voted her specifically to defeat the "Republican agenda". A percentage of people who voted for Prosser voted him to specifically defeat the "Liberal agenda". It's only a matter of time when the supporters demand action.
 
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Red Dawn

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Prosser has been a Supreme Corut Judge in WI for the past 12 years. I haven't seen any indication that HE has been partisan. Most of his time in office was under a Democrat as Governor. However, the supports of Kloppenburg were very clear they wanted her to declare Walker's bill unconstitutional. If anyone was being elected for partisan ideological reasons it was HER. There were a lot more qualified people on the liberal side of things than her. The unions and the Dems knew they could control her and she would be a good little soldier.

So you are suggesting that she would have been the Clarence Thomas of the Left in Wisconsin, chosen not because she's some what qualified but more so for her willingness to do as she is told.
 

Jhhnn

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So you are suggesting that she would have been the Clarence Thomas of the Left in Wisconsin, chosen not because she's some what qualified but more so for her willingness to do as she is told.

Why did you inject reality into their perfectly good fantasy? Why?
 

Jhhnn

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Recognize the deflection from 20 years ago. Ignore it.

Dems don't want a black on the court. They only want wise Latinas.

Repubs don't want blacks on the court, either. They already have a token, a loyal house boy, and they're hard to find.
 

cubby1223

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So you are suggesting that she would have been the Clarence Thomas of the Left in Wisconsin, chosen not because she's some what qualified but more so for her willingness to do as she is told.

Some people campaigned, spent, voted for her wanting her to do as told. I think she'd judge based on her views of the law & constitution... but there are more days coming where a judge has to weigh the pros and cons of judging one's conscience, with judging what will win the next campaign.

Say Kloppenburg wins and Walker's "union busting" bill makes it to her court, she rules in favor of the law's constitutionality. Next election cycle unions may very well run attack ads against her, and in support of a more "liberal-leaning" judge.
 

Fear No Evil

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Repubs don't want blacks on the court, either. They already have a token, a loyal house boy, and they're hard to find.

Pretty typical response from a racist lefty. If a black person thinks differently than you, they're a house boy. The Democrat party uses many of the same tactics the KKK did to keep blacks in line, fear and threats. If you don't think like we tell you to we'll make sure you never do anything politically.
 

Corn

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Pretty typical response from a racist lefty. If a black person thinks differently than you, they're a house boy. The Democrat party uses many of the same tactics the KKK did to keep blacks in line, fear and threats. If you don't think like we tell you to we'll make sure you never do anything politically.

Yep, typical is exactly how I'd phrase his response too. Spot on.
 

Red Dawn

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What reality did he inject?
Yeah really, what reality was I trying to inject, I was just asking if you thought she'd do what she was told instead of doing what she thought was right. It's common knowledge that Thomas follows the party line every time and I was asking if you thought she'd do the same.
 

Fear No Evil

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Yeah really, what reality was I trying to inject, I was just asking if you thought she'd do what she was told instead of doing what she thought was right. It's common knowledge that Thomas follows the party line every time and I was asking if you thought she'd do the same.

Thomas seems to be in line with the conservatives of the court. How does that make him different from Alito or Scalia? Or is it because he's BLACK?! :cool:
 

Red Dawn

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Thomas seems to be in line with the conservatives of the court. How does that make him different from Alito or Scalia? Or is it because he's BLACK?! :cool:

I didn't say that, you did. Is it impossible to mention him without you thinking of his race?
 

Fear No Evil

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When the lefties are in here making racist comments over and over, I guess the answer is NO. I can't not think of his race when people are calling him a house boy for not toting the liberal line. It seems all too frequent that the left seems to have problems with conservative blacks and women. The left claims to be the party of tolerance but doesn't seem to have ANY, especially if you are a black or a woman who disagrees with their opinions. Its too frequent to just be coincidence.
 

werepossum

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Thomas seems to be in line with the conservatives of the court. How does that make him different from Alito or Scalia? Or is it because he's BLACK?! :cool:
Nothing the left hates more than a conservative black. Has to do with group politics and the left's war on individuality (or as they call it, this cult of the individual). A black person is expected to follow the prescribed groupthink, else he is condemned as an Uncle Tom or worse who doesn't appreciate what the left has done for him and therefore doesn't realize that they still know what's best for him. That goes for all individuals, really; the left knows what is best for you based on your identity group, of course. Whether it be based on your skin color or your sexual orientation or just whether you wear your genitals on the outside or the inside, the left knows best what you should believe and what choices you should make.
 

Vette73

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http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/122364728.html

7000+ margin. Witch better not drag this out any more.



Witch drag?


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