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rookie1010

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Hello

I was looking for a wireless router which would connect to my adsl router(with a single usb conenction comng out of it) through a usb connection, and can provide an ethernet port for my desktop and a wireless (802.11b/g) ports for my laptop.

can you guys suggest a router?
 
I am not sure what you mean by single usb connection coming out of it. Buy the linksys type "G". It has good range with faster file sharing. If you want an usb connection, than you have to buy one of the usb adaptors that will make usb connections. Look at newegg.com, they have lot of those usb adaptors.
 
Originally posted by: rookie1010
Hello

I was looking for a wireless router which would connect to my adsl router(with a single usb conenction comng out of it) through a usb connection, and can provide an ethernet port for my desktop and a wireless (802.11b/g) ports for my laptop.

can you guys suggest a router?
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Are you saying your ASDL router doesn't have any ethernet ports on it at all? If so, call your service provider and have it replaced with one that has ethernet on it.
 
thanks for the replies

i meant that the adsl modem just has usb connection coming out of it, i plug that usb connector into my pc or laptop .

so you guys mean to say i should replace my adsl modem since there are no routers with USB inputs?
 
You can also use the PC that your existing modem is connected to as the gateway by using Window's Ineternet Connection Sharing feature. You'd save a bit of money this way, but would require that the gateway PC always be on in order for the rest of the machines to have internet access.
 
Originally posted by: rookie1010
thanks for the replies

i meant that the adsl modem just has usb connection coming out of it, i plug that usb connector into my pc or laptop .

so you guys mean to say i should replace my adsl modem since there are no routers with USB inputs?
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if i had a modem that had no ethernet i would kick my isp in the n*ts....
 
hello

i will use wthe internet connection feature then

you guys think there is not going to be any router which accepts usb input in the near future?
 
In that case, you will still need a wireless router (or access point), and the PC that you use for internet sharing needs an ethernet card. Most newer computers have network cards built-in, but if not, they cost ~$10.
 
I doubt any routers will accept USB. It's quite unusual, so the demand is pretty limited. Implementing support is a bit difficult since USB network connections are not very standard and the router would require special drivers.
 
thanks for the replies

"you will still need a wireless router (or access point), and the PC that you use for internet sharing needs an ethernet card. Most newer computers have network cards built-in, but if not, they cost ~$10."

you mean that i can connect my pc to a routerthrough an ethernet connection using internet sharing. and this router can then be used for multiple connections, correct?

do i need a cross over connection for internet sharing?

i guess with internet sharing, the number of ethernet cards limit the number of ethernet and consequently internet connections, correct?
 
That's sort of right, but I'm not sure exactly what you are saying...Let me re-explain.

Right now, one PC has direct internet access because it is connected to the USB modem. In order for other computers to share an interent connection, you need a routing service. Most people do this by using a router. You can't do this, and must use alternate means to provide routing. One solution is to use a PC to do routing by using a built-in service of Windows called internet connection sharing. This service require the PC to have two network connections, one connection to the internet, and the other to you own local network. Your connection to the internet is established using USB, and the connection to your local network will be done through an ethernet card in the PC connected to the wireless router (I refer to it as a router because that's its name, it's not actually doing any routing). This PC will then route queries for internet resources make by other computers in your local network through its own internet connection, and pass the information back to the requesting PC.

The purpose of the wireless router is to connect all of the computers in your local network together so they can communicate with each other. Most importantly, so that they can communicate with the PC that is providing the routing service. The wireless router does not do any actual routing (it does what is known as switching). You would not connect anything into the wireless router's WAN port. This port is designed to be connected to a modem for it to provide routing with. Instead, you would connecting the internet connection sharing PC into any one of the wireless router's LAN ports. As far as the wireless router is concerned, that PC is no different from any other PC. You would just use a regular straight ethernet cable. There is no real limit on the number of PC that can access the internet. There is no correlation between the number of ethenet connection the routing PC has (it only needs one). It's the wireless router's job to connect the local PCs together (so the limit of PCs is determining by the capacity of the wireless router, and is plenty for your needs).

I hope this makes sense.

Here is a link to a site that describes how to setup internet connection sharing: http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics
 
thanks for the reply

it makes complete sense now. i guess with an ethernet cable and a wireless router i am good to go for an intranet all connecting to the internet
 
what about the older variations of .11, should i not have that?

i came across some MIMO variations of .11g, i have got a sony laptop which probably does not do MIMO, does the wireless router then switch to Multiple Input Single Output mode
 
You have a laptop with 802.11g.
You then need a router with 802.11g; any other modes would not be used.

So I still think a suggestion of an inexpensive, on-sale wireless router that has basic g-compatibility will be plenty.
 
what do you mean by basic g functionality, you mean g with no MIMO thrown in, correct?

i was wondering if with a combined ADSL + wireless router, is it a must to use the ADSL router part or can one just use the wireless router functionality
with the ADSL MODEM functionality disabled.


I have an ADSL MODEM providing a 2 mbps connection with a usb output, what i was thinking is if i stick the usb output into a computer, and then
connect the computer to the wan port of the ADL MODEM/wirelss router and then connect the LAN ports of the ADSL MODEM/wireless router to individual machines, and also use the wireless functionality of the router to establish a wirelss router, will that contraption work?


some one told me that one ADSL MODEM IS the same as another one, so i can just replace my silly limited version of my current ADSL MODEM to a new wireless router/ADSL MODEM, what do you guys think?
 
Have you called your ISP to find out what they say abou this? Most are more than happy to give you a Ethernet equipped ADSL modem.
 
Ya, try to get an ethernet modem first.

But if that doesn't work, i suggest a slight change to the setup you described. Don't connect the modem computer to the WAN port of the wireless router. That computer is already acting as a router (ie running ICS or some other routing software), so you don't need to use the wireless router's routing capability (you would end up doing routing twice). Instead, connect the modem computer up to any of the LAN ports of the wireless router. You should also disable the DHCP server of the wireless router (or else you will have two DHCP servers running on your network).
 
thanks for the replies

i will contact my service provider to see if they will let me use the adsl modem/wireless router combination
you guys mean to say that the wireless router will still be active ( without the router functionality) if the WAN port is left unplugged.
if i have 2 DHCP servers running on the network, i guess that will cause a conflict, and the network wont work, correct?
 
If you don't connect the WAN port, then the wireless router will simply be unable to establish an internet connection, but the rest of its functionality will be unaffected. Having 2 DHCP servers running will cause rather unpredicable behaviour. It will depend on which DHCP server provides an IP first. If it happens to be the correct DHCP server, then it will work for that client, if not, then the client will lose internet access.
 
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