Wireless RF Keyboard & Scroll Mouse for $16.74!

JumpOnDeals

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Wireless RF Keyboard & Scroll Mouse for Only $16.74 @ Compgeeks.com

1) Compgeeks.com has the Wireless RF Keyboard & Scroll Mouse (item #AK7500) for $18.50.
2) Use the 10% coupon code (can be found) to bring it down to $16.74.

Enjoy!

Steve
 

RDMustang1

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Nice deal for a cheap KB + mouse but RF is line-of-sight and usually doesn't work that far away so be aware.
 

TTM77

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RDMustang1, I know what U mean. I have seen one of those and tested it. But yet when U go too far, U can't see the text on the monitor.

What does it mean "Opto-mechanical + 27MHz wireless radio frequency"?

There R many cheap wireless keyboard + Mouse but the mouse use that ball which need a good surface to work. I look for optical mouse, more accurate and don't need a really good surface. It's nicer too.

Here is an idea, those cordless mouse can easily fall off and break so why don't they make out of rubber? :) It can bounce right back up. LOL :D
 

DanFungus

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Originally posted by: RDMustang1
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Nice deal for a cheap KB + mouse but RF is line-of-sight and usually doesn't work that far away so be aware.

uh, IR is line-of-sight...RF is not..:confused:

edit: haha, Rhesus :p
 

Rhesus

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Originally posted by: RDMustang1
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Nice deal for a cheap KB + mouse but RF is line-of-sight and usually doesn't work that far away so be aware.

Actually I believe IR (infrared) is line-of-sight, whereas RF (Radio Frequency) is not :p

Edit: bastage Dan
 

webplayer

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I concede that the range of a RF keyboard can be very variable. It depends on the transmit/recieve antennas, the RFI in the environment at that frequency band, and the modulation (e.g. single freq or spread spectrum, AM/FM, etc.) However, I am not really sure why "line of sight" would be a problem. Even if you're a crackerjack touch-typist running some ultrastable variant of 'nix, you'd want to be able to see the screen to be sure you were at a command cursor rather than some error massage or dialogue; and even if you have the kind of mind that can play fifty games of chess blindfolded, a mouse *demands* a direct view of the screen: imagine that it got jostled a fraction of an inch, and the cursor wasn't precisely where you left it. You could close a window you thought you were minimizing to reveal the window behind it. (and if you'e not in a GUI envirnoment, why use a mouse?)

"Line of sight" in this context, is only important in a very strict sense: if a pile of books/papers , a desktop speaker, or the edge of a table gets in the way of an IR signal (Infra-Red, or a wavelength of light lower than the human eye can see), it can stop the signal cold -- though sometimes you get helped by a lucky beam bounce. RF (Radio frequency) however, penetrates such minor obstacles fairly easily. You don't have any problems using a radio or walkie-talie indoors -- they's be pretty useless if they were line-of-sight.

While it might sometimes be useful to submit commands from the next room (e.g. to operate a VCR/cable box remotely), it's rareiy useful to operate a computer blindly. RF (radio) remotes *can* operate through opaque walls -- that's why garage door openers are generally RF, but car door remotes are sometimes IR: it's convenient to have you indoor garage door reciever respond despite several laters of opaque, IR-absorbing or refracting glass, wood and steel, but it's not quite as useful to unlock your car door when you can't even see your car (or, for that matter, to open any accidentally matching car in fifty meters or three stories of a parking garage)

If RF has a drawback, it's a lack of security. IR *can* be read through windows, if someone is determines, but the same penetration that makes a RF signal so convenient for the user, also makes it convenient for an eavesdropper. Do you care? Probably not -- but a security conscious person should realize that any would-be eavesdropper would probably be using an antenna that was thousands of millions of times as sensitive as the one that comes with the keyboard/mouse (such antennae can easily be built from simple wire and a Pringles can and/or paper plate and aluminum foil -- not because such antennas are so great, but because the usual keyboard recieve antennas suck -- and "decibels of attenuation" is a logarthmic scale. Heck, a $20-50 Yagi array or RF amp would let an eavesdropper sniff passwords of key strokes for blocks or miles around -- or remot control your system, unless the RF keyboard/mouse uses good encryption, which few do)

Sorry. I know this isn't the usual tone for this forum. I usually keep my mouth shut. I thought these basic scientific principles might help anyone considering *any* wireless purchase, and there seems to be a great divide t between the many Anandtecher's to whom this stuff is second nature, and those to whom it's a total mystery. I'll crawl back under my rock now.



 

DaveSimmons

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. . . Sorry. I know this isn't the usual tone for this forum. I usually keep my mouth shut. I thought these basic scientific principles might help anyone considering *any* wireless purchase, and there seems to be a great divide t between the many Anandtecher's to whom this stuff is second nature . . .
Good post, you should copy this as a "Warning: wireless keyboards insecure" thread in Off-topic.

Some security nuts -- err, cautious people -- here are probably using Encrypted File System then typing their login on a wireless keyboard.
 

Ziptar

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Just a heads up... I saw this exact model at Big lots (Sarasota, Fl) for $14.99 last month and they had a bunch of them.
 

vexingv

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can any1 attest to the quality of this keyboard? considering an RF keyboard/mouse for an HTPC...the Gyration's are nice but really expensive; this would be a cheap alternative if its good