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Wireless Power Transmission Reinvented - Safely!

Cattlegod

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I searched and didn't see a repost, but this looks awesome. Though, I'd be worried about having any metal objects in the room. Claims to have transmitted up to 3000 Watts.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/11/24/smallbusiness/next_little_thing_2010.fsb/index3.htm

Marin Soljacic couldn't sleep. The problem was his wife's Nokia cell phone. The tyrannical device beeped on the bedside table when it needed to be plugged in. It could not be disabled.

Instead of taking a hammer to the phone, Soljacic marveled at the fact that this device, and billions of others like it, was sitting a few feet away from all the electricity it could ever need. Why couldn't it receive power wirelessly, just as laptops get Wi-Fi?

Being a physics professor, not an electrical engineer, Soljacic didn't know the history of failed attempts to produce wireless electricity. (Thomas Edison and his rival Nikola Tesla were among the first to envision long-distance power-beaming.) Soljacic also didn't pause to consider conduction, the kind of close-range charging used in electric toothbrushes, which is about as far as wireless electricity got before him.

Soljacic learned that if you could get two magnetic fields to resonate -- to sing the same note, in effect -- they could transfer an electric current. With two large magnetic coils, he found in an experiment described in Science magazine in 2007, you can throw 60 watts across a room, powering a lightbulb. (Keeping the two resonators in perfect harmony over a distance is not simple; Soljacic spent several years running lab experiments before he built a system that worked reliably.)

MIT, his employer, quickly patented the technology (Soljacic's name is on the patent) and encouraged Soljacic to start a company. He would sit on the board but find executives to run it full time. The result can be found on the second floor of a brick building in Cambridge, Mass. leased to the company by the big-and-tall tailor on the ground level.

WiTricity's 15 employees are hard at work proving that Soljacic's magnetic coils can power almost any electrical device. David Schatz, director of business development, shows me a TV, a DVD player and a computer, all of them wireless.

"This was our No. 1 request from business users," Schatz says, switching on a projector. "Look: no batteries, no wires, nothing up my sleeve." The coil sending out the power is hidden behind an abstract painting that the CEO's wife rescued from their basement.

Schatz is the first to admit that the housing they've hurriedly built for the receiving coils is too bulky. "No one would want to buy this," he says, pointing to the pack that juts out from the back of the laptop, a pregnant plastic bulge that's about a third as large as the device itself.

Given sufficient cooperation from equipment manufacturers, WiTricity is confident that it can incorporate its coil into the guts of any device. (Think of how computermakers like Apple (AAPL, Fortune 500) turned bulky Webcams into fingernail-size lenses that fit in a thin laptop case.) CEO Eric Giler, a veteran tech executive who ran a telecom company for 22 years, understands the importance of letting potential partners play with patented technology.

So far about a dozen companies -- including Intel (INTC, Fortune 500) and Sony (SNE) -- have tried replicating Soljacic's groundbreaking MIT experiment in their own research facilities, just to make sure it's the real deal. That might make other CEOs nervous, but not Giler.

"Our best customers are going to be the guys who try to do this," he says, "because it is really hard." The company is also talking to furniture manufacturers about fitting coils into desks and cubicle walls. The first announcement of a WiTricity partner product is expected toward the end of 2010.

Most of Giler's potential customers have one major question: safety. "There's a real perceptual problem," he says. "People think we're putting electricity in the air, and that's called lightning, and they know to stay away from that."

In fact, the coils turn electricity into magnetic fields, then back into electricity. And as any physicist will tell you, magnetic fields interact weakly with humans; as far as the fields are concerned, we are no different from air. (The Earth itself exudes a magnetic field.)

Initially, Giler was skeptical. Magnetism from MRI machines can disable pacemakers. Wouldn't wireless electricity pose similar risks? Soljacic replied that MRI magnetism is about 10,000 times stronger than his version. The Institute of Physics in London concurs: WiTricity's magnetic field "has no detrimental effects on the human body."

Giler makes a point of standing between the coils whenever he demonstrates the technology. At the Nikkei electronics conference in Tokyo in October, he was able to power a 1,000-watt klieg light from across the room -- a far cry from that 60-watt lightbulb in Soljacic's first experiment. "We're going up the power curve," he says.

WiTricity's record so far is 3,000 watts -- enough to fully charge an electric car, so long as it's in the same room (or garage). How big could WiTricity get? "Every single person in the world can relate to the problem of running out of batteries or having wires everywhere," Giler says. "The market is so potentially huge that numbers become meaningless."

A wireless electric world could free up designers to create entirely new kinds of products, no longer hemmed in by the need for boxy batteries or power supplies. As one of Giler's VC investors says, "I bet you that's your bestseller in five years' time. You don't even know what it is yet."
 
Not very efficient yet, is it?

Even if it isn't, I can see the potential and number of applications for this as being huge in just a few years time. Which equals a lot of money for the companies that successfully roll out this technology.
 
People are crying about cell towers and their "death rays". What will they do when we have wireless electricity towers?
 
People are crying about cell towers and their "death rays". What will they do when we have wireless electricity towers?

There is always something to cry about, meh. This looks promising, i remember when he first announced the light blub experiment. Hope he keeps pushing this until full commerical use!
 
Interesting. I assume the receiving coils would have to be oriented correctly to match the sending coils. I guess with laptops the coils would be built into the main body with instructions to keep level.
 
This is a pretty old repost. The buzz over wireless electricity has come and gone (search isn't working, but I'm pretty sure i've seen a lot about "witricity". The biggest problem with it is that the efficiency drops very fast as distance increases.
 
People are crying about cell towers and their "death rays". What will they do when we have wireless electricity towers?

The technology is completely different. The amount of RF energy that would be equivalent to the amount of power this thing draws from magnetic fields would definitely give you cancer.

Most cell towers transmit at something like 5 watts. Cell phones can work with signals at -110dbm (millionths of a watt). Have fun sitting 10 feet away from a 1000 watt broadband amplifier transmitting at 1.8ghz.

edit: in summary, magnetic fields don't cause cancer, but RF can definitely cause cancer at high enough levels. Noone really knows what level is high enough though.
 
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The technology is completely different. The amount of RF energy that would be equivalent to the amount of power this thing draws from magnetic fields would definitely give you cancer.

Most cell towers transmit at something like 5 watts. Cell phones can work with signals at -110dbm (millionths of a watt). Have fun sitting 10 feet away from a 1000 watt broadband amplifier transmitting at 1.8ghz.

edit: in summary, magnetic fields don't cause cancer, but RF can definitely cause cancer at high enough levels. Noone really knows what level is high enough though.

RF causes cancer? News to me. It's non-ionizing.

RF at that level can certainly cook you though. Apparently the first thing to go is your eyes get all cloudy and you end up trying to look through a pair of hard boiled eggs.
 
Yeah. Such as what level of magnetic field? From what device? What makes you think it was the magnetic field causing your headache. Etc...

You know, add more details.

I've played with a variety of magnets and electromagnets over the years. I distinctly recall one incident with an electromagnetic coil I was goofing around with when I was probably around seven or so (my father's business was a veritable playground of various electronic and other toys). After magnetizing about a dozen or so screwdrivers with it, peering down into the center of the coil up close a few times, I developed a rather splitting headache.

Also had a pair of rather strong motor magnets at one point. I have no idea exactly the strength of them, but their interaction range was on the order of a foot or so if that gives any indication. I thought I would see if I could get them to interact with each other on either side of my head. Needless to say, after a 20 or so seconds of that, I had a very sharp and painful headache.

Shens it all you want. I'm used to it. I had a pharmacist tell me it was impossible that ibuprofen could give me a caffeine-like buzz, yet it still happens and I almost never drink anything caffeinated.

I'd like to point out that the other potential ramifications of this technology may involve non-human species, particularly birds who use magnetism in navigation.
 
I've played with a variety of magnets and electromagnets over the years. I distinctly recall one incident with an electromagnetic coil I was goofing around with when I was probably around seven or so (my father's business was a veritable playground of various electronic and other toys). After magnetizing about a dozen or so screwdrivers with it, peering down into the center of the coil up close a few times, I developed a rather splitting headache.

Also had a pair of rather strong motor magnets at one point. I have no idea exactly the strength of them, but their interaction range was on the order of a foot or so if that gives any indication. I thought I would see if I could get them to interact with each other on either side of my head. Needless to say, after a 20 or so seconds of that, I had a very sharp and painful headache.

Shens it all you want. I'm used to it. I had a pharmacist tell me it was impossible that ibuprofen could give me a caffeine-like buzz, yet it still happens and I almost never drink anything caffeinated.

I'd like to point out that the other potential ramifications of this technology may involve non-human species, particularly birds who use magnetism in navigation.

I find it pretty hard to believe that magnets are the cause of your pain, considering the fact that thousands go through MUCH higher magnetic fields without batting an eyelid (MRI's). I don't care how strong you say your dads electric coil magnet is, an MRI machine is orders of magnitudes more powerful.

Unless you have a metal plate in your head that you don't know about it, magnetic fields are not causing your headaches.

Your pain is much more likely to be psychological and not physical in nature. Much like how if you get sick after eating something, just seeing that thing can make you feel sick (Even if it didn't cause the illness).
 
I find it pretty hard to believe that magnets are the cause of your pain, considering the fact that thousands go through MUCH higher magnetic fields without batting an eyelid (MRI's). I don't care how strong you say your dads electric coil magnet is, an MRI machine is orders of magnitudes more powerful.

Unless you have a metal plate in your head that you don't know about it, magnetic fields are not causing your headaches.

Your pain is much more likely to be psychological and not physical in nature. Much like how if you get sick after eating something, just seeing that thing can make you feel sick (Even if it didn't cause the illness).

Could be. Of course there's also the quacks that swear by those magnetic bracelets and neck things and crap too. And thanks for reminding me - I wasn't feeling so hot after I got my MRI a couple years ago. Of course that was all likely stress, since nobody had a clue why the events that lead up to the MRI happened anyway.
 
Could be. Of course there's also the quacks that swear by those magnetic bracelets and neck things and crap too. And thanks for reminding me - I wasn't feeling so hot after I got my MRI a couple years ago. Of course that was all likely stress, since nobody had a clue why the events that lead up to the MRI happened anyway.

Since you aren't dead from your MRI, I'm going to count that as proof positive that you don't have a metal plate in your head. The magnetic field that you were exposed to by the MRI is going to be much stronger then the magnetic fields you claim to have received a headache from.

As for the quacks that say that magnetic bracelets cure cancer, or whatever, yeah they are quacks. It works for people because the placebo effect is real and fairly strong.
 
RF causes cancer? News to me. It's non-ionizing.

RF at that level can certainly cook you though. Apparently the first thing to go is your eyes get all cloudy and you end up trying to look through a pair of hard boiled eggs.
Yup, if you're close to a powerful enough RF source your corneas will be the first to go. They don't have blood vessels to carry away heat, so they will be damaged before other tissues in the body.
 
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