wired and wireless don't see each other

masteraleph

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Equipment involved:
Belkin F5D7230-4
Desktop- network card and Netgear WAG311
Laptop- Thinkpad T60 with Intel 3945ABG and integrated ethernet
Printer- Samsung ML-2252W and included print server

Both computers are using XP Pro.

Network is set up with SSID broadcast off, MAC Address filtering, and WPA2-PSK.

The general setup at the moment is: Desktop and printer connected via ethernet cable to router, laptop wireless.

Whenever a computer is connected directly to the router (via ethernet cable), it can ping anything else wired to the router (printer or another computer). Anything connected via wireless cannot ping the other devices, nor can they ping it (this applies to both the desktop and the laptop). Everything can ping the router, and everything has internet access. All devices have static IPs in the 192.168.2.* range (.2 for the desktop network card, .3 for the printer, .4 for the laptop wireless, .5 for the laptop ethernet, .6 for the desktop wireless). Typically only .2-.4 are connected.

I've uninstalled ZA on the laptop and disabled Windows Firewall to try an eliminate firewall issues. There don't seem to be any settings for isolation on the router, or at least there aren't any that I can find. Everything is on the same workgroup (MSHOME, the default). As best as I can tell (and as best as I've been able to set), file and print sharing are on on both computers.

Anyone out there have any ideas?
 

imported_romank

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This is a dumb question, but just to get it out of the way - I assume all the computers are on the same subnet?

When you are trying to ping the computers, are you using the computer names or their IP addresses?

Can you do 'ipconfig /all' and paste the contents for the desktop and the laptop? This will probably cut down on some of the questions.

You can try to manually add a route to the laptop for kicks and see if that helps. On your PC type 'route add 192.168.2.4 192.168.2.2'
 

ktwebb

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Ah, lovely Zone Alarm. Glad to see they've made such remarkable improvements in their uninstall software.

If we assume they are all hitting the same router, same subnet and so forth and have connectivity out to the WAN. In other words, if everything is setup like it's supposed to be and working otherwise then it's a firewall problem. And since ZA is famous for not uninstalling properly that would be target number one. Google Zone Alarm uninstall problem or something along those lines. A proper uninstall has been written I believe that removes all the legacy registry entries left behind. What a piece of garbage ZA is. The next suspect would be wireless rules on the routers configuration.
 

masteraleph

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As requested from romank- ipconfig /alls for laptop and desktop in standard configuration:

Host Name...................: Josh Laptop
Primary Dns Suffix........:
Node Type....................: Mixed
IP Routing Enabled.........: Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled......: No
DNS Suffix Search LIst....: MSHOME

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix....: MSHOME
Description.................................: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
Physical ADdress.........................: [MAC address- not going to post]
Dhcp Enabled..............................: Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled............: Yes
IP Address..................................: 192.168.2.4
Subnet Mask................................:255.255.255.0
Default Gateway.........................: 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server...............................: 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers................................: 192.168.2.1
128.59.62.10
128.59.59.70
Primary WINS Server.....................: 128.59.59.119
Lease Obtained
Lease Expires (dates)

For the Desktop:
Host Name.....................: Joshuafb68
Primary Dns Suffix........:
Node Type....................: Mixed
IP Routing Enabled.........: Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled......: No
DNS Suffix Search LIst....: MSHOME

Ethernet Adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS suffix:.............................: MSHOME
Description...........................................................: Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
Physical Address...............................................: [MAC Address]
Dhcp Enabled......................................................: Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled.....................................: Yes
IP Address...........................................................: 192.168.2.2
Subnet Mask.......................................................: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway................................................: 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server........................................................: 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers.........................................................: 192.168.2.1
128.59.62.10
128.59.59.70
Primary WINS Server.........................................: 128.59.59.119
Lease Obtained
Lease Expires (dates)



Attemtps to ping are by IP address, not computer name, and "route add" doesn't do anything.
 

phatrabt

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Are you using a hacked firmware? I'm not familiar with the Belkin but I know that some routers (my WRT54G) have a VLAN setting so that you can isolate your wired and wireless connections onto different VLANs. Just something to think about.
 

nweaver

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I would guess firewalls. Double..and triple...check all firewalls.

have you tried getting onto another machine via UNC paths?
 

masteraleph

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Alrighty then, so, largely successful.

Killing ZA on both computers seems to have done the trick to get them to see each other- they can both ping each other. The laptop (wireless) can't ping the printer, but it can access the printer via the other computer (at least, based on the name that the printer is showing, I'm assuming that's the case; I haven't checked with the desktop shut down yet). That's enough for my purposes at the moment, though. Thanks to all who helped here and didn't brush me off or ignore the thread. Anand is definitely one of the forums I post less at, but I'm definitely going to make an effort to be here more often.
 

14fingers

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What service pack have you got on the two computers? I had a similar problem when trying to network my desktop (sp1) with a wireless laptop, but eventually decided it wasn't working due to the lack of a 'set up wireless network' feature ont he desktop.

I'm not sure whether this was due to sp1 lacking this feature or not but it would make sense to me.