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winxp pro network filesharing - access denied

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audiophan

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general heirarchy:
fileSERV is the fileserver
-guest account turned on
-password requirement turned off for guest
tunes is the folder to be accessed
Paul is the pc trying to access fileserve - it sees the pc and folder, yet 'access denied'
musicSHARE is the account i want networked users to login as

all pc's involved are running winxp pro

i know that if i create a user called Paul on fileSERV i can get it to work. however there are 5 other users similar to Paul, and i don't wish to give them all local access on fileSERV. so what i need is to create blanket access to tunes on fileSERV so that Paul, Katie, Mike, etc can access from the network yet not locally.

is it even possible {without} setting up domain controller?

{edit}

what i am saying it that i want computers Paul, Kaite, Mike, etc to be able to access tunes on fileSERV using account musicSHARE. when they try to access tunes it says access denied without asking for login. i need a login prompt for them to login as musicSHARE
 
I'm having a similiar problem. The only thing is that I have the Guest account disabled. How do I make the computer ask for an account to connect with?
 
Originally posted by: PorBleemo
I'm having a similiar problem. The only thing is that I have the Guest account disabled. How do I make the computer ask for an account to connect with?
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that is EXACTLY what i want it to do!!!
 
Originally posted by: audiophan
Originally posted by: PorBleemo
I'm having a similiar problem. The only thing is that I have the Guest account disabled. How do I make the computer ask for an account to connect with?
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that is EXACTLY what i want it to do!!!
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Hey, how do you activate and deactivate the password requirement?
 
When you share files without a domain controller you have to set ACL's on the shared folders to give access to only accounts which reside on that machine. So when a person browes to that folder it will ask for an account to access the folder. But once the connection is made from that computer with that account logged in the next time, XP will check when the connection is attempted and allow the connection. Its all in the access token. The same thing would happened in a domain as well. The only difference is a domain controller can grant a token to access all the network resources, where XP can only grant one to allow access to the files or folders on the local machine where it resides.
 
suppose i may need to be more specific with my question:

what i am saying it that i want computers Paul, Kaite, Mike, etc to be able to access tunes on fileSERV using account musicSHARE. when they try to access tunes it says access denied without asking for login. i need a login prompt for them to login as musicSHARE
 
Share permissions deal with access to files and folders over a network. Is this file in a shared folder? Share the folder for everyone full control. Then they should be able to browse that folder no problem. Do you have a firewall running on this machine?
 
the problem lies with not having a local account for the user. for exaple if i create an account Paul on the local machine then user Paul can access the folder through the network. however i do not wish to create a local account for every user. i want them all to be able to login as musicSHARE. Paul can login as either musicSHARE or Paul if Paul has a local account. however if Paul has NO local account than it just states access denied without asking for login information.

how do i get it to ask for login info
 
Originally posted by: audiophan
the problem lies with not having a local account for the user. for exaple if i create an account Paul on the local machine then user Paul can access the folder through the network. however i do not wish to create a local account for every user. i want them all to be able to login as musicSHARE. Paul can login as either musicSHARE or Paul if Paul has a local account. however if Paul has NO local account than it just states access denied without asking for login information.

how do i get it to ask for login info
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Ok now I see. The answer is no, without a domain controller I know of no other way. Why don't you try Linux as a file server. I believe you can pull this off that way.
 
i've never dealt with linux, so it would mean learning a new os.

so - not possible to get a password prompt without domain controller. is it possible to just allow guest access over the network to the pc?
 
Persistant mapped drive.

net use <drive letter> \\computer\share /u:<username> <password> /persistant: yes

example:

net use z: \\fileserver\music /u:musicshare Password1 /persistant:yes
 
You can open a command prompt first (start, run, cmd) to keep the text output on the screen.

The net result of your efforts is that you can access the file share by the drive letter (it will show up in My Computer, you can create a shortcut on the desktop to that drive letter, or you can just click start, run, <drive letter>). The mapping of driveletter to share is done under the credentials you supplied in that command.
 
1. Go to Control Panel | Performance and Maintenance | Administrative Tools | Local Security Policy.
2. Expand Local Policies | Security options.
3. Double-click Accounts: Limit local account use of blank passwords to console login only, which is enabled by default. Disable this option

This forces the machine to ask for a password. Problem now is that the connecting computers will try to connect as the remote user and Guest. Since you have not setup accounts for the local remote users, this will fail too.

So, what you need to do is Drive mapping. Which is done from Tools at My Network Places. You can browse the network or type this "\\ComputerName\SharedFolderName". OBVIOUSLY, select to reconnect at logon otherwise you will have to do this everytime.

When the screen with the password comes up, you can input the account &amp; password which is what you want. Without Domain Controllers.

Having said all that, setting up local accounts for each user connecting is the best solution. That way, if you need to limit or remove accesss for a user in the future it will be a snap.

Good luck.
 
Originally posted by: Roadraider

So, what you need to do is Drive mapping. Which is done from Tools at My Network Places. You can browse the network or type this "\\ComputerName\SharedFolderName". OBVIOUSLY, select to reconnect at logon otherwise you will have to do this everytime.

When the screen with the password comes up, you can input the account &amp; password which is what you want. Without Domain Controllers.
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GUI version of the command line I posted above. Let us know if you can't get it to work either way.

🙂
 
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