WinXP Pagefile on RAM drive?

[Nothinman]

I have a degree in programming, and have had to read an entire book on memory management. And what the heck does "you believe everything you read on the internet" have to do with anything? Because I referenced Google? You're really stretchin' for it there. Why don't you criticize Phoenix86 for referencing Microsoft while you're at it.

While I hate referencing MS docs on VM because they misuse the term so badly (and their renaming of the Commit Charge graph to "PF Usage" only exacerbated the problem), at least they're the ones who wrote the OS so they _should_ have a proper definition somewhere on their site. Sadly, the only place they seem to use the term properly is in their developer docs and the one support doc that Phoenix86 found. It would be nice if the software developers would actually explain things like this to the UI designers (and I use that term lightly with regards to MS) and documentation people so that misinformation like this wouldn't be spread.

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Brazen
But you know what, none of that even matters, because as I said dajo was the first to mention disabling "virtual memory" and he was obviously refering to the pagefile, not virtual addressing. KookDrew was obviously trying to be a jick to dajo; I was just pointing out that dajo's use of the term "virtual memory" was not wrong, and is in fact more common than KookDrew's use of the term.

The point is, Virtual Memory is the wrong term. Period.

Fine, think whatever you want. On that note, I'm checking out of this retard convention, and I hope if JJPeters has any more questions then this thread will get back on track.

 

[Phoenix86]

I beat that doc to death, it's VERY well written. Simple and to the point. Notice the date on it too, a bit late in the game. 🙂

Brazen, OK, I'll bite.

From your webopedia link:

You can think of virtual memory as an alternate set of memory addresses. Programs use these virtual addresses rather than real addresses to store instructions and data. When the program is actually executed, the virtual addresses are converted into real memory addresses.

Now, you said you can disable VM.

Show me how to prevent data from being stored in the virutal address, not how to disable the page file. Afterall, the virtual address isn't on the phsyical disk, that'd be a physical address.

Note, as per the MS docs, VM is ALWAYS used, wether the page file is in use or not. VM is address mask, by disabling the PF, you are limiting the scope of the mask.

As a programmer you should know you do not disable VM by disabling the page file. Do you store memory directly to physical RAM, no, I don't think so.

Now about definitions, we can play pre-school fights all day, but a technical source trumps a "home" dictionary any day of the month.

You don't see them use MW in a court, they use black's law dictionary... For a reason.

If you want to argue with the article I posted, and MS *is* wrong on their docs, check with them about it. This document I linked to, however, is the result of people bitching about all their previous docs on it.

I have yet to see anyone provide a decent argument against the link I provided, you followed suit (bitched about it, but didn't argue it)

LMAO @ I have a degree.

BTW, my e-penis is
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[ValuedCustomer]

Originally posted by: Brazen
Fine, think whatever you want. On that note, I'm checking out of this retard convention..

That's a good-call considering the fact that your post-count is higher than anyone else's at this particular "retard convention" in which you've had your ass handed to you 6 ways to Sunday.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Brazen

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Brazen
But you know what, none of that even matters, because as I said dajo was the first to mention disabling "virtual memory" and he was obviously refering to the pagefile, not virtual addressing. KookDrew was obviously trying to be a jick to dajo; I was just pointing out that dajo's use of the term "virtual memory" was not wrong, and is in fact more common than KookDrew's use of the term.

The point is, Virtual Memory is the wrong term. Period.

Fine, think whatever you want. On that note, I'm checking out of this retard convention, and I hope if JJPeters has any more questions then this thread will get back on track.

Yeah, continue to call us retards. That'll make us take you seriously. :roll:

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Brazen

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Brazen
But you know what, none of that even matters, because as I said dajo was the first to mention disabling "virtual memory" and he was obviously refering to the pagefile, not virtual addressing. KookDrew was obviously trying to be a jick to dajo; I was just pointing out that dajo's use of the term "virtual memory" was not wrong, and is in fact more common than KookDrew's use of the term.

The point is, Virtual Memory is the wrong term. Period.

Fine, think whatever you want. On that note, I'm checking out of this retard convention, and I hope if JJPeters has any more questions then this thread will get back on track.

Yeah, continue to call us retards. That'll make us take you seriously. :roll:

#1 I don't care. #2 You can't take it too personally, I didn't even exclude myself.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Brazen
#1 I don't care. #2 You can't take it too personally, I didn't even exclude myself.

I'm not taking it personally. 🙂