WinXP Networking Problems (TCP/IP related?)

LeetestUnleet

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My configuration:
Main PC - > Cabling - > Hub < - Cabling < - Secondary PC

Running the network wizard on both computers didn't network them properly. However, if I manually set the IP settings like so:

Main:
IP: 192.168.0.1
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.169
DNS Server: 192.168.0.169

Secondary:
IP: 192.168.0.169
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server 192.168.0.1

I've got TCP/IP protocol installed with support for netBIOS over TCP/IP enabled, as well as installing NetBIOS protocol itself to see if that would fix it. Both setups are the same on both computers.

Both computers can see each other through My Network Places, and can usually access each other. Every once in a while, however, I get an error saying I don't have privs to view the other computer (I'm logged on with full admin privs on both stations). Also, when I enable Internet Connection Sharing on my dialup connection, the whole network goes down and neither computer can see each other, or sometimes even see themselves.

I'm sure I've probably got some sort of setting in my TCP/IP manual settings, as I don't particularly know exactly how the Default Gateway and DNS Server operate nor what I should set them to.

Any suggestions would be great. Thanks in advance.
 

Iron Woode

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Your best approach would be to setup ICS using your dial up and using a cross-over cable to join the PCs together (eliminates the hub). Make sure both are using the same workgroup. Now run the ICS network wizard only on the PC with the dial up modem. It will act as a DHCP server and give the other PC an IP address. Both machines will have internet access and you can share drives too.
 

LeetestUnleet

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I don't have any crossover cabling, and I plan on adding more computers to the network occasionally for small LAN parties so I want more than 2 computers going at a time.

I tried networking 2 XP machines at my friend's house too - using all of his equipment, not any of my computers/wiring/hub/etc, and we were still getting the same exact problems. His hub is about a year old at most (my friend and I went in halves on it as a gift)

Has anyone ever actually gotten the Network Wizard to work PROPERLY?! Or is it just another M$ lie about "Plug-and-Play Networking"?

We've both tweaked around in our services to close up possible security holes and increase performance, but none of the stuff I messed with on my machine had anything to do with networking. What sorts of services might affect it?

Other responses offered to me from another forum:
To make things easy on yourself, leave ICS enabled all the time on one machine and set the other to "automatically obtain an IP address"

Enabling ICS set's your IP to 192.168.0.1 on the machine it's enabled on and also starts up a DHCP server for other machines on your network to automatically obtain IP's.

If you don't wanna go that route then make the following manual changes.

Main:
IP: 192.168.0.1
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: leave blank
DNS Server: leave blank

Secondary:
IP: 192.168.0.169
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1 <---fine for when ICS is enabled, otherwise can be left blank.
DNS Server 192.168.0.1 <--fine for when ICS is enabled, can be left blank otherwise, your not running a DNS server on your main machine

My response to this:
I've tried both options, and they'll see/access each other for a while, but then everything will randomly crash again and nothing in My Network Places.

Also, even when they do see each other, I don't have my ISP listed as an option in Network Connections (It showed up before once so I'm assuming it goes there when it's working properly). I still can't access the internet from the secondary computer.
 

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Some buddies and I ran into similar problems to this a while back. (with sharing not ICS, we weren't using ICS at that time) Try disabling the windows firewall, seemed to fix our sharing problem although you may not want to open your computer up to the internet like that, its all up to you.

To change this setting, right-click your network connections on both comps and switch to the advanced tab, uncheck the internet connection firewall.

Maybe you can run a 3rd party firewall to avoid leaving the comp open?

please let us know if it works =P


jeff
 

mboy

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It doesnt appear u have anything to give the machines any TCP/IP settings so you need to set them manually. Give them the same gateway,DNS and subnte mask, then make sure their IP addy is in the same range 192.168.2.1 and then 192.168.2.2 for example. Also make sure they are in the same workgroup. The wizard is JUNK!