Wing rips off airplane during show, pilot survives In Plane.

[Analog]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-GUN3Logw4

 

[grrl]

Interesting. The plane had a chute as well.

 

[angminas]

Now there's a great idea I never considered. I guess it makes a lot of sense for an aerobatics plane. Why are chutes not installed on other small aircraft? I'm tired of reading stories about people dying in single engine plane crashes.

 

[Anubis]

thatll buff right out

but yea as angminas said why aren't those in more small planes

 

[rudder]

Now there's a great idea I never considered. I guess it makes a lot of sense for an aerobatics plane. Why are chutes not installed on other small aircraft? I'm tired of reading stories about people dying in single engine plane crashes.

Weight and expense. Wings don't typically fall off unless you are pulling some serious G's. planes can still be flown and guided without an engine.

 

[LordMorpheus]

Now there's a great idea I never considered. I guess it makes a lot of sense for an aerobatics plane. Why are chutes not installed on other small aircraft? I'm tired of reading stories about people dying in single engine plane crashes.

as far as I know plane parachutes are fairly common in small aircraft. Not universal, but fairly common.

 

[Sa7aN]

as far as I know plane parachutes are fairly common in small aircraft. Not universal, but fairly common.

cirrus SR series come with them but thats the only ones i know of

 

[OCGuy]

Was he twittering?

 

[MikeMike]

Was he twittering?

he didn't die, so doubtful

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Was he twittering?

no, he was holding it wrong

 

[coxmaster]

cirrus SR series come with them but thats the only ones i know of

There are a few others that come to mind, and a lot of them are considered LSA (Light Sport Aircraft")

They are worthless. If you pull the chute in a Cirrus the plane is essentially totalled, and you are still going to get hurt on landing.

Literally the ONLY time I would use the chute is if the wing fell off. Otherwise I have a better chance of landing the plane myself

 

[KeithP]

There are a few others that come to mind, and a lot of them are considered LSA (Light Sport Aircraft")

They are worthless. If you pull the chute in a Cirrus the plane is essentially totalled, and you are still going to get hurt on landing.

Literally the ONLY time I would use the chute is if the wing fell off. Otherwise I have a better chance of landing the plane myself

So if the plane is totaled and you are hurt it is worthless? If the alternative was death I am thinking not.

Here is a list of deployments on the Cirrus. It seems like a pretty effective safety device to me. At least if used properly.

-KeithP

 

[coxmaster]

So if the plane is totaled and you are hurt it is worthless? If the alternative was death I am thinking not.

Here is a list of deployments on the Cirrus. It seems like a pretty effective safety device to me. At least if used properly.

-KeithP

I phrased my post incorrectly. In most cases (ie, engine failures, electronics, etc) It is worthless. It would only be useful if there is a major structural problem, which is fairly uncommon.

 

[rudder]

So if the plane is totaled and you are hurt it is worthless? If the alternative was death I am thinking not.

Here is a list of deployments on the Cirrus. It seems like a pretty effective safety device to me. At least if used properly.

-KeithP

Gliding a plane in = controlled landing. Pulling a chute = uncontrolled descent. Uncontrolled meaning you do not have a choice in what you hit on the way down. Unless you are in a single engine plane over the mountains at night... gliding a plane in is preferrable.

 

[DrPizza]

Anyone else notice that the pilot ejected? If you advance it frame by frame, you can see the pilot's chute off to the left.

 

[halik]

Anyone else notice that the pilot ejected? If you advance it frame by frame, you can see the pilot's chute off to the left.

That's part of the ballistic recovery system - it shoots a charge to unroll the chute.

 

[IronWing]

That has to be exciting.

 

[skyking]

I phrased my post incorrectly. In most cases (ie, engine failures, electronics, etc) It is worthless. It would only be useful if there is a major structural problem, which is fairly uncommon.

You are totally disregarding the fatalities caused by loss of control or disorientation. six percent of GA accidents occurred in IMC but account for nineteen percent of the fatalities. Another statistically significant number of accidents are VMC night and dawn operations. A ballistic recovery system (BRS) can be used in many other incidents besides a structural failure.
Link to NTSB PDF:
http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2009/ARG0901.pdf

 

[coxmaster]

You are totally disregarding the fatalities caused by loss of control or disorientation. six percent of GA accidents occurred in IMC but account for nineteen percent of the fatalities. Another statistically significant number of accidents are VMC night and dawn operations. A ballistic recovery system (BRS) can be used in many other incidents besides a structural failure.
Link to NTSB PDF:
http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2009/ARG0901.pdf

No, i understand that there are plenty of other causes of fatalities. But I dont see how IMC/VMC has anything to do with it.

Loss of control. Such as what? A spin/stall? Cirrus markets their BRS system as a way to recover from spins, even though its not exactly difficult to recover from a spin (in most cases)

As for VMC night/dawn. I dont see what you are getting at here. If a pilot doesnt know there is terrain, how is BRS going to help him? The BRS isnt useful is the pilot doesnt know to pull it.

 

[skyking]

Disorientation/loss of control. It kills GA pilots in large numbers.

 

[Blackjack200]

lol, when the wing went and he started spiraling I was like 'he survived that? GTFO!' Then the chute deployed and I was like '...oh'

 

[0roo0roo]

You are totally disregarding the fatalities caused by loss of control or disorientation. six percent of GA accidents occurred in IMC but account for nineteen percent of the fatalities. Another statistically significant number of accidents are VMC night and dawn operations. A ballistic recovery system (BRS) can be used in many other incidents besides a structural failure.
Link to NTSB PDF:
http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2009/ARG0901.pdf

the maxwells house podcast that used to exist on twit used to get into that a lot. also the national geographic aircrash investigations show was pretty interesting on that kinda thing.

the only way one could glide down with one wing is if you had a radio controlled model plane...those can sometimes pull it off..