Wine bar customer writes expletive on $300 check to protest $6 service charge ... lulz

[fskimospy]

no people choose to be servers as a inbetween job or they can not gain any further skills.

There are plenty of jobs that fit this description.

Your basic argument is that all restaurant owners are incompetent and are vastly overpaying their work force. After all, they could just have a no tips policy and gain a big price advantage over their competitors. Since servers are being overpaid as compared to their market value this no tip restaurant should still attract servers no problem.

it is 100% determined by the tips which could be from your charm or the establishments great food, most likely wont be because you told them about the perfect wine to pair with the caviar choice.

Being charming sure sounds like a skill to me. If anything you’re describing a direct correlation between the quality of the work product and compensation that exceeds most other industries. The market has spoken!

 

[Zorba]

Programming the cashier system is cheaper than printing new menus.

Sounds like this how been the policy since day one. Also not sure where you all go to restaurants, but places I go reprint menus all the time, at least every few months.

 

[killster1]

There are plenty of jobs that fit this description.

Your basic argument is that all restaurant owners are incompetent and are vastly overpaying their work force. After all, they could just have a no tips policy and gain a big price advantage over their competitors. Since servers are being overpaid as compared to their market value this no tip restaurant should still attract servers no problem.


Being charming sure sounds like a skill to me. If anything you’re describing a direct correlation between the quality of the work product and compensation that exceeds most other industries. The market has spoken!

nah my whole point of this thread is that the server is a crybaby. the customer has a right to be upset he didnt throw a rage fit he wrote fuck you and said the word socialism.. OK SO thats what he wanted to do. he expressed his frustration within normal levels if you ask me.. i wouldnt say the word socialism or write out fuck you on the tip but it sounded fine to me.

 

[repoman0]

nah my whole point of this thread is that the server is a crybaby. the customer has a right to be upset he didnt throw a rage fit he wrote fuck you and said the word socialism.. OK SO thats what he wanted to do. he expressed his frustration within normal levels if you ask me.. i wouldnt say the word socialism or write out fuck you on the tip but it sounded fine to me.

Thats because you’re a douchebag. To every person who’s not a complete piece of shit the customer’s behavior is so far gone that it’s laughable. Yes the itemization is a dumb policy but to act like a little bitch over it just makes the dude an absolute child .. what does it say about you that you find a grown ass man acting like a little prick spoiled kid to be acceptable and normal 🙄

 

[NWRMidnight]

nah my whole point of this thread is that the server is a crybaby. the customer has a right to be upset he didnt throw a rage fit he wrote fuck you and said the word socialism.. OK SO thats what he wanted to do. he expressed his frustration within normal levels if you ask me.. i wouldnt say the word socialism or write out fuck you on the tip but it sounded fine to me.

The server is a cry baby? Maybe you should go back and actually read the article you posted so you can get your facts straight. Not once did it reference the server. Then step back and re-think your position on writing Fuck you on a ticket as being a reasonable response and muttering socialism and such under his breath. Making a complaint is reasonable, but confronting someone, most likely the manager, and saying comments under your breath and writing fuck you on the ticket is not reasonable. It's also most likely that tie interaction was a little more "colorful" than what the article shows, as the owner is maintaining a sense of professionalism when she explains what took place. Specially since she was not there.

 

[killster1]

Who's the one here bitching about a 10 top and and kids, and who can't fathom being able to successfully take care of a 40 top? Yet keeps saying serving is easy. Sure hell isn't me.

Again, no where does eating during a shift indicate eating while cooking (however real legitimate cooks do). Are you also trying to imply all a cook does is cook? And they never take any small rest breaks outside of normal breaks. There isn't a kitchen in the world that a cook hasn't/doesn't eat while working (outside their normal breaks). Specially since being a good legitimate cook, requires you to taste test thru out the day, to ensure it's seasoned properly, taste correct, and to sustain quality, etc.

Please keep posting so we all can see just how little you worked in a legitimate restaurant, and please keep throwing out how the ONE shithole you did work at, was extremely pourly managed. And l the other shitty law breaking companies you have worked for.

I grew up working in construction, as my dad has owned two plumbing businesses. I have worked since I was 8 years old, and my social security record can prove it. my resume will put yours to shame. I've dug ditches for hours on end, day after day, and it's a hell of a lot easier on your body and your mental health than a server who actually works hard (not you) I've worked with concrete, electrical, varies stages of construction, as well as cabinet manufacturing, window manufacturing, commercial light manufacturing, and joined the military all before the age of 21. I have 25+ years in the hospitality industry (restaurants) and currently I am a steel working working in an industrial aluminum mill.

So please spare me the "you don't know hard work" bullshit. Your attitude tells me you could pick any field, even something I have never done, and I would still run circles around you, because I have integrity and a legitimate work ethic, something your attitude, and posts have demonstrated you don't have. But I was referring to serving. I have no issues schooling you on the proper way to serve and show you how a real server works hard, all while giving great service. But of course it would take a busy restaurant, not the pourly ran slow like place you say you served at.

you are so funny, yea LEGIT to taste the spices i had to eat a portion in the kitchen im cooking in.. nope didn't happen even once ((NOT EVEN ONE BITE)).. i guess it boils down to management as far as how many cooks to work at once to allow breaks that would even come within 10% to a servers free time. sounds so wonderful at your business.. the servers are taking tables of 40 and the cooks are in the back eating while cooking and taking breaks here and there hahahahah yeaaaaa.. table of 40 lululul gotta love how this thread about 2% tip gets turned into this.

 

[fskimospy]

nah my whole point of this thread is that the server is a crybaby. the customer has a right to be upset he didnt throw a rage fit he wrote fuck you and said the word socialism.. OK SO thats what he wanted to do. he expressed his frustration within normal levels if you ask me.. i wouldnt say the word socialism or write out fuck you on the tip but it sounded fine to me.

You think it’s appropriate to tell someone you don’t know who by all accounts was nothing but courteous to go fuck themselves?

That’s, uhm, deranged.

 

[fskimospy]

Maybe the reason servers get paid so much more than killster thinks they should is because they have to deal with people like killster and nobody would do it for less.

 

[NWRMidnight]

you are so funny, yea LEGIT to taste the spices i had to eat a portion in the kitchen im cooking in.. nope didn't happen even once ((NOT EVEN ONE BITE)).. i guess it boils down to management as far as how many cooks to work at once to allow breaks that would even come within 10% to a servers free time. sounds so wonderful at your business.. the servers are taking tables of 40 and the cooks are in the back eating while cooking and taking breaks here and there hahahahah yeaaaaa.. table of 40 lululul gotta love how this thread about 2% tip gets turned into this.

Where did you get "eat a portion".. You have clearly demonstrated, you have never worked in an actual restaurant, Where they actually made the food to order and tasting it to make sure it is seasoned correctly (not bland), and meets the quality standards, which does not equal "eat a portion", and you have no clue about how time management works. A skill required to be a good server, and a good cook.. The fact that you think you have to eat a portion to taste the food you are "supposably" cooking, tells me you are most likely just a microwave attendant heating up those portions. as they where most likely pre-prepared.. A no, no in a real restaurant. And yeah, I worked at restaurants that actually was busy and expected their staff to work.. not sit around an visit ordering food waiting for customers. I know, a concept you can't grasp because you have no clue about what working hard in the restaurant industry is because you have no work ethics.

BTW, this topic is not about a 2% tip, once again, you need to go re-read the article you posted. Maybe comprehend what it says, and what the 2% is. Heck, your own thread title shows it's not a tip...

edit: I misread your comment, corrected to reflect what you actually said

 

[HomerJS]

nah my whole point of this thread is that the server is a crybaby. the customer has a right to be upset he didnt throw a rage fit he wrote fuck you and said the word socialism.. OK SO thats what he wanted to do. he expressed his frustration within normal levels if you ask me.. i wouldnt say the word socialism or write out fuck you on the tip but it sounded fine to me.

Codifying bad public behavior while at the same time attacking hard working people serving the public during a pandemic. Sounds about right for you.

After all, why not have a wait person go bankrupt because they fell down some stairs and broke a wrist?

 

[Mai72]

Wine bar customer writes expletive on $300 check to protest $6 service charge (msn.com)
Wine bar customer writes expletive on $300 check to protest $6 service charge

I don't eat out very often for many reasons but i would not be happy either for a extra fee for the waiters heath insurance. that should be the restaurants duty unless they screw with their hours so they don't have to offer it for them (unless this was just so they server doesn't have to pay as much from their check to get it, and still why should the customer be paying this?) for a no skill job servers and waitress's make decent money, 20% of 300 to take them their items they ordered and possibly take care of the dirty dishes after? come on we don't need forced tips and forced health insurance gotcha moments when you get the bill. "covid surcharge" lulz

Waitering is a skill. I know that I couldn't put on a positive front everytime I had to deal with a costomer because my tip(s) depended on how well they thought that they were treated. I used to pump gas in NJ (full serve) and you can argue that the job isn't a highly skilled job. It's not. You don't develop any type of hard skill that you could take with you into the market. But, you do develop soft skills. Being able to hold eye contact, small talk with customers, being positive in the face of very rude people, and even problem solving. Coming into work on time. Taking orders from management without your ego getting bruised. Being positive. Helping others. Being grateful. Taking the lead. Those are alll soft skills that are sadly overlooked today, and it's why so many young people have a difficult time out of college. Its sadly overlooked.

 

[pcgeek11]

They should have just included the 6 dollars into the cost and not bring attention to it. Why make a thing out of it other than for attention (which they got).

I also think the customer was a giant douche for his actions.

 

[TheVrolok]

You think it’s appropriate to tell someone you don’t know who by all accounts was nothing but courteous to go fuck themselves?

That’s, uhm, deranged.

This tells you everything you need to know, right? This poster and his ilk have such low emotional intelligence they simply lack the ability to understand other points of view. That's why a lot of the problems we have are irreparable until we better marginalize their sophomoric opinions and get back to progressing civilization.

 

[TheVrolok]

They should have just included the 6 dollars into the cost and not bring attention to it. Why make a thing out of it other than for attention (which they got).

I also think the customer was a giant douche for his actions.

I really dislike agreeing with pcgreek in a general sense, but, sometimes I just gotta.

 

[ch33zw1z]

They should have just included the 6 dollars into the cost and not bring attention to it. Why make a thing out of it other than for attention (which they got).

I also think the customer was a giant douche for his actions.

Look where it's gotten us though. It's quite revealing how people champion shitting on others.

 

[pcgeek11]

Look where it's gotten us though. It's quite revealing how people champion shitting on others.

There is no shortages of douches. Look around here...

 

[sdifox]

Sounds like this how been the policy since day one. Also not sure where you all go to restaurants, but places I go reprint menus all the time, at least every few months.

Haven't been to restaurants in ages, I just order takeout.

 

[ch33zw1z]

There is no shortages of douches. Look around here...

There's some merit to revealing how people treat service providers. I would say that it's not just food service, but servicers of all kinds that run into horrible people on a regular basis. The people society views on the "bottom" get it the worst.

I say that putting that extra 2% where all can see has done a great job.

 

[kt]

Whether the restaurant owner should itemized the "healthcare fee" or include it in the price of the meal is debatable. I would lean towards including in the price of the meal, but that's just me. Every business owner has the right to run their business the way they see fit as long as they don't break any laws. However, what's not debatable is that the customer is a total douchebag. He voiced his opinion and the fee was removed from his bill, that should've been the end of the story but no he had to be a total douchebag.

 

[MrSquished]

Also when dbags like killster go out and stiff or barely tip, they aren't just fucking over the waiter, but other staff.

If there is a busboy, the waiter tips them out at the end of the shift. If there is a runner, the waiter usually tips them out too. And if there is a bartender who makes drinks for the table, the waiter tips them out also.

In a tip pool system, the same thing happens. All the waiters tips are pooled together. Usually the bar gets a cut off the top. Then it's a point system - such as front waiters get a full point, back waiters 3/4 point, and busboys 1/2 a point.

So shitty people that don't tip or barely tip like this guy are screwing over the whole front of house staff. Dicks are dicks.

 

[MrSquished]

It's still so revealing how this customer, who is clearly a conservative, called a business making a free market choice to add a fee to their service and itemize it, as socialism. Conservatives have become so so ignorant it is scary - now a capitalist enterprise charging fees is socialism. These people just have zero critical thinking ability - it is impossible to create a functioning society with so many ignoramuses.

 

[killster1]

Also when dbags like killster go out and stiff or barely tip, they aren't just fucking over the waiter, but other staff.

If there is a busboy, the waiter tips them out at the end of the shift. If there is a runner, the waiter usually tips them out too. And if there is a bartender who makes drinks for the table, the waiter tips them out also.

In a tip pool system, the same thing happens. All the waiters tips are pooled together. Usually the bar gets a cut off the top. Then it's a point system - such as front waiters get a full point, back waiters 3/4 point, and busboys 1/2 a point.

So shitty people that don't tip or barely tip like this guy are screwing over the whole front of house staff. Dicks are dicks.

who said i stiff waiters? i barely eat out and when i do i always tip, the size of the tip depends really on 3 things one of them being if i will return visit, the other is what i said before accurate order and checking up on the table.

they really should tell you if they pool tips etc, i have never worked or heard of a place where teh tips are all pooled. kinda like those news stories where the waiter gets a check for 6000$ and gets fired for keeping it all haha. the manager wanted 20%

 

[killster1]

It's still so revealing how this customer, who is clearly a conservative, called a business making a free market choice to add a fee to their service and itemize it, as socialism. Conservatives have become so so ignorant it is scary - now a capitalist enterprise charging fees is socialism. These people just have zero critical thinking ability - it is impossible to create a functioning society with so many ignoramuses.

its the business's right to add the charge, it is the costumers right to be upset. you think people should just not say something when they are upset but yet you cant help your self insults personal attacks any time anyone thinks different from you. so why are you such a hypocrite?


he said one word Socialism.. that will set you into a rage ? maybe you are the problem then so angry at a single word.

 

[killster1]

This tells you everything you need to know, right? This poster and his ilk have such low emotional intelligence they simply lack the ability to understand other points of view. That's why a lot of the problems we have are irreparable until we better marginalize their sophomoric opinions and get back to progressing civilization.

to understand someone else's point of view means you have to agree and say nothing? or you can say a single word (again i said i would never say socialism or write fuck you on a check) but i do think it is his right. its not a child with virgin eyes working at a wine bar right? yea this is the root of all the problems in the word people being passive aggressive.

 

[killster1]

Where did you get "eat a portion".. You have clearly demonstrated, you have never worked in an actual restaurant, Where they actually made the food to order and tasting it to make sure it is seasoned correctly (not bland), and meets the quality standards, which does not equal "eat a portion", and you have no clue about how time management works. A skill required to be a good server, and a good cook.. The fact that you think you have to eat a portion to taste the food you are "supposably" cooking, tells me you are most likely just a microwave attendant heating up those portions. as they where most likely pre-prepared.. A no, no in a real restaurant. And yeah, I worked at restaurants that actually was busy and expected their staff to work.. not sit around an visit ordering food waiting for customers. I know, a concept you can't grasp because you have no clue about what working hard in the restaurant industry is because you have no work ethics.

BTW, this topic is not about a 2% tip, once again, you need to go re-read the article you posted. Maybe comprehend what it says, and what the 2% is. Heck, your own thread title shows it's not a tip...

edit: I misread your comment, corrected to reflect what you actually said

so even if i was to taste a soup or something i made IT IS NOT THE SAME AS EATING ON TEH CLOCK LIKE A SERVER! its total bs to say cooks eat in the kitchen while they work 100% bs.. the health department would violate you for sure.

btw i dont taste my cooking at the house either, after you make something 1 million times i think needing to taste it is a excuse not like you are making a new recipe you have never tried before.