WindowsXP 64bit Edition: Drivers, Release Candidates, and Availability, Part 2...

[Pr0d1gy]

So this 64-bit version is just about ready for primetime then, huh?

 

[CaptnKirk]

Most stuff works now on the 64-Bit side of the system.
The exceptions are mostly driver issues with printers & cameras.
Obviously there's little in the gaming world at this time.
QuickTime doesn't play either.

I have to boot from the 32-Bit side to print with the HP PSC 2210 - no 64 drivers . . yet.
My Creative & Minolta cameras only work on the 32-Bit side.
Haven't been able to get the SATA RAID to work - or even initiate on the 64-Bit.

Since I'm in a 'Dual-Boot' configuration, it's a minor annoyance, but we probably need to
harass the hell out of Creative, HP, Lexmark, Epson, 'Insert-Name-Here' until they respond
by producing a comprehensive driver package -
it is their responsibility to provide the drivers that make their products work, not Microsoft's.

Performance wise - It's a fast and crisp system in 32-Bit, and even sharper in 64-Bit -
I estimate I'm seeing maybe 10% better performance on the 64-Bit over the 32-Bit when
doing the exact same functions (except for the above mentioned driver issues).

I would guess that when Microsoft does officially release the 64-Bit in all it's glory, it will
be maybe another 5% - 10% better than the RC2 we're playing with now - better function
of memory & taking advantage of the 64-Bit CPU's design.

 

[DogFaceMonk]

I heard that 16-bit support had been dropped and that most installer programs are 16-bit. Do applications install OK on XP 64bit?

 

[Megatomic]

I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but TV tuners are still completely unsupported in x64. I can't find one product with beta x64 drivers today.

For some this is no biggie, but for me it's a heavy hit. I need my tuner/capture card for my side biz.

 

[imported_justbrowzing]

 

[Icopoli]

Anyone been able to run 3d mark 2k5 under RC2? I keep crashing at the end of the Proxycon demo.

 

[Bytre]

I heard that 16-bit support had been dropped and that most installer programs are 16-bit. Do applications install OK on XP 64bit?

It does not support 16-bit applications. Current installers are 32-bit, but there are older apps which have 16-bit installers which won't install, or you'll have to manually set them up.

 

[CALIKUSH]

Yes I can run 3dmark 05 Rc2 just fine.

 

[InlineFive]

Oddly, the nVidia drivers didn't detect my GeForce 4 Ti when running x64 RC2.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Bytre

I heard that 16-bit support had been dropped and that most installer programs are 16-bit. Do applications install OK on XP 64bit?

It does not support 16-bit applications. Current installers are 32-bit, but there are older apps which have 16-bit installers which won't install, or you'll have to manually set them up.

There's actually some sort of workaround in the OS for some of the most popular 16bit installers. It's really odd that they stuck around as long as they did, so MS had to make some special arrangements for them.:Q

 

[imported_thisbrian]

I finally got XP 64 installed on my new a64 rig but it won't allow me to logon to the system. How can I change the password etc. anyone HELP Please!

 

[imported_thisbrian]

I'm running on Knoppix at the moment.

 

[ViRGE]

A default administrator account is created, using the password you supply when you install it. If you lost that password, you're going to need to reinstall XP64.

 

[imported_thisbrian]

I never got to logon for the 1st time. Don't know where it could have got a password from. I am running Win2k now. Guess I'll have to try to re-install it again. XP-64 that is.

 

[Megatomic]

When you installed x64 you were asked to provide an administrator login password, this is long before you are ever prompted to login yourself.

 

[imported_thisbrian]

You were correct Megatronic, I had to re-install without the repair option, and it works but the video performance is way too slow for me because Nvidia doesn't make drivers for my Quadro2 MXR video card for XP-64! I'll stick with Win 2k until I can get a supported video card.

 

[Megatomic]

The standard drivers suites don't cover quadro cards? That's a tough break man. But honestly, you aren't missing much at this point. There is very little WinXP x64 software out to use and the performance is inline with standard WinXP x32 for now.

And you've witnessed the driver support problem firsthand.... My TV card has no drivers either.

 

[imported_thisbrian]

They only support Quadro4 and FX! 66.xx Drivers don't support my Quadro 2 either.
Product Support List Windows XP 64-bit Edition - 71.84

GeForce4 MX 420
GeForce4 MX 440
GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X
GeForce4 MX440SE with AGP8X
GeForce4 MX 440-SE
GeForce4 MX 460
GeForce4 MX Integrated graphics
GeForce4 MX 4000
GeForce FX 5100
GeForce FX 5200
GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
GeForce FX 5500
GeForce FX 5600
GeForce FX 5600 Ultra
GeForce FX 5600SE
GeForce FX 5600XT
GeForce FX 5700
GeForce FX 5700VE
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
GeForce FX 5700LE
GeForce FX 5800
GeForce FX 5800 Ultra
GeForce FX 5900
GeForce FX 5900 Ultra
GeForce FX 5900 XT
GeForce FX 5900ZT
GeForce FX 5950 Ultra
GeForce PCX 5300
GeForce PCX 5750
GeForce PCX 5900
GeForce 6610 XL
GeForce 6200
GeForce 6200 with TurboCache
GeForce 6600 GT
GeForce 6600
GeForce 6800
GeForce 6800 GT
GeForce 6800 LE
GeForce 6800 Ultra
Quadro4 200 NVS
Quadro4 400 NVS
Quadro4 380 XGL
Quadro4 500 XGL
Quadro4 550 XGL
Quadro4 580 XGL
Quadro4 700 XGL
Quadro4 750 XGL
Quadro4 780 XGL
Quadro4 900 XGL
Quadro4 980 XGL
Quadro FX 500
Quadro FX 540
Quadro FX 600
Quadro FX 700
Quadro FX 1000
Quadro FX 1100
Quadro FX 1300
Quadro FX 1400
Quadro FX 2000
Quadro FX 3000
Quadro FX 3000G
Quadro FX 3400
Quadro FX 3450
Quadro FX 4000
Quadro FX 4400
Quadro NVS 200
Quadro NVS 280
Quadro NVS 400
Quadro NVS 280 PCI
Quadro NVS 285 PCI

 

[dsorrent]

I've seen reviews of XP 64 for AMD RC1 and everything I've read said gaming takes a hit using it... Does anyone know if RC2 suffers from the same performance issues that RC1 had in regards to gaming?

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: dsorrent
I've seen reviews of XP 64 for AMD RC1 and everything I've read said gaming takes a hit using it... Does anyone know if RC2 suffers from the same performance issues that RC1 had in regards to gaming?

Take a look at this.

 

[Kodiak]

I love it, especially since at the moment, I can't afford Windows XP.

 

[Megatomic]

Thanks for the link ViRGE, that was an excellent read.

 

[dsorrent]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: dsorrent
I've seen reviews of XP 64 for AMD RC1 and everything I've read said gaming takes a hit using it... Does anyone know if RC2 suffers from the same performance issues that RC1 had in regards to gaming?

Take a look at this.

Excellent Virge... That's what I was looking for..

 

[customcoms]

I can't find Realtek drivers for x64; everything on their site is for 64 Bit, which ISN'T the same thing. Basically, all the ones I've tried delete a windows file and render my os useless. Anyone have a link to some realtek drivers that WORK with an amd64 and rc2?

 

[CaptnKirk]

RealTek Drivers

It's what they are offering for 2003 server - which is what the AMD X64 is based on.

You didn't list what motherboard you are using - that would be a help, you know . . .