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[Windows XP Pro SP-2] How to get administrator access?

hi.. I found this forum while searching for something else, found this topic then saw the bit at the end so did a search for "take ownership" on the forums...
I found out about how to take ownership (and replied to this since it caught my eye.)BUT while it shows the "security" tab on folders after doing properties that I actually *already own*, it doesn't show it for other stuff...

the situation is well, I need to open a folder in documents and settings that's left on the computer after someone uses it - but it says access denied when I try to open it, I guess because of NTFS

so I guess I need administrator to "take ownership" of it and then be able to look in it - Can anyone tell me how to get administrator without having to do anything that reboots the computer? we also have a program that makes the computer go back to a default setting so if you reboot the computer everything in the documents and settings folder (and desktop, newly installed programs, etc) is deleted which would be bad...

if anyone can help it would be great, thaaaankkks :s
 
xp pro? Log off, log in as admin. If you have the welcome screen, press CTL ALT DEL 2 times to get a reqular login prompt.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
If you don't have an admin account or know the administrator password you're screwed.

Techies are always ranting on about how insecure Windows is..... surely there must be some way?

XP protection is perfect? 😵

*ignores n0c's asinine comments*
 
n0c's comments were not asinine. You will have to talk to the computer's administrators. Most of us are administrators ourselves, and are not going to help you break security.

edit: well, maybe not MOST of the people here on ATF, but I believe n0c, mweaver, and nothinman are in some sort of IT administrative related capacity (I myself am a sysadmin). But that's beside the point. Most of us in ATF are involved in computing departments and spend a lot of time makings sure there are no holes in our security.
 
there are ways to get in but not without rebooting (well i'm sure there are ways to get in without rebooting as well but not that i'm familiar with). and since it seems you're doing something you shouldn't be i'm not going to go any further. 🙂
 
Ok, well those who are just going to make stupid comments rather than anything constructive can just not reply then, it's not that hard. 😛

it's for a good cause ~shrug~
 
if you're going to come on this forum looking shady asking about breaking xp password protection to access files someone has kept you from then you are going to get comments like these. calling them stupid is just going to make it worse. if you fully explain yourself as not to look so shady you might get more help.
 
If it's for a good cause, work with the computer's administrator. Anybody can make up stories on a forum for why they have a good reason for breaking security.

Stalking is not a "good cause."
 
i've never heard of a serious female stalker... that's a man thing, along with rape. women are better than that 😛

if you really MUST know, it's cos me and my friends want to see if we can find anything legally incriminating on this guy if he's bragged in a forum or something - he pretty badly hurt one of my friends (now his ex..) but she's got no witnesses.. I know what I'm doing is right, but the college would just not agree since it'd make them look bad/break their own rules...

If you think this is a bad thing, well, whatever, rules are relative.
 
Originally posted by: xolademoness
i've never heard of a serious female stalker... that's a man thing, along with rape. women are better than that 😛

if you really MUST know, it's cos me and my friends want to see if we can find anything legally incriminating on this guy if he's bragged in a forum or something - he pretty badly hurt one of my friends (now his ex..) but she's got no witnesses.. I know what I'm doing is right, but the college would just not agree since it'd make them look bad/break their own rules...

If you think this is a bad thing, well, whatever, rules are relative.

Lye dissolves a body pretty well.
 
if you really MUST know, it's cos me and my friends want to see if we can find anything legally incriminating on this guy if he's bragged in a forum or something - he pretty badly hurt one of my friends (now his ex..) but she's got no witnesses.. I know what I'm doing is right, but the college would just not agree since it'd make them look bad/break their own rules...

IANAL, but if you are looking for evidence to be used in a legal case, you probably don't want to be hacking into the guy's computer without a signed consent form or a warrant.
 
Sounds like just another form of stalking. Let the cops handle it, let it go, or punch the guy in the nuts and get over it.
 
ALERT! ALERT!

a post has escaped off topic under the guise of an operating system related matter. we need a containment unit stat!

ALERT! ALERT!
 
n0cmonkey didn't make an "asinine" comment, it is actually not a bad idea if your request is reasonable. He was just summarizing a topic that has been discussed numerous times and was providing the best answer to your question. Otherwise we would have gone back and forth hashing out why you probably can't get at the Administrator account. Unless your Administrator has a better view of human nature then most of us and leaves the computers in a compromising state. 😛
 
first off I can believe there are a lot of stupid posters that should just post in the Off Topic Forum because they are fools and have nothing better to do with their time.

anyway, with the Corporate copy, I know for sure, because me and my cousin have done this a lot. that if you boot in safe mode, you can switch/change user accounts, or at least have access to the files, enable and disable multi-user log in's, and other stuff like that.

I also know that you can access the files if you do a system repair (not restore, it may erase files), but it pretty much grants you access to Administrator privaleges without erasing too many files (if I am correct). But I guess also, that if you just installed another hard drive onto the system, and then booted an OS from the second-installed hard drive, you'll be able to access the files on the hard drive with equal ease.

there are hacks out there that let you smash through passwords in WinXP, but I wouldn't go there, since backdoors have their ways of opening insecurely, and not to mention the EULA wouldn't be proudly upheld for you.

good luck
 
first off I can believe there are a lot of stupid posters that should just post in the Off Topic Forum because they are fools and have nothing better to do with their time.

At least those fools read the OP, she can't reboot the machine.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
first off I can believe there are a lot of stupid posters that should just post in the Off Topic Forum because they are fools and have nothing better to do with their time.

At least those fools read the OP, she can't reboot the machine.

reading is for n00bs dude. duh.
 
If the crime was stalking a restraining order (even a temporary one) is relatively easy to obtain. Granted this doesn't do a whole lot on its own, but with a couple of other steps she would have been much better off. A self defense course and a bit of common sense about being safe would be quite useful.

If it was rape, the evidence would be gone at this point. She should have gone to the police immediately. Spread the word about the guy, and get your friend some help. This is too big of a thing to happen to someone not to get professional help.

Either way I understand your frustration, but cracking a machine isn't the way to rectify the situation. The proper authorities should be able to obtain the warrants necessary to check the data you want to get ahold of.
 
Originally posted by: fire400
first off I can believe there are a lot of stupid posters that should just post in the Off Topic Forum because they are fools and have nothing better to do with their time.

anyway, with the Corporate copy, I know for sure, because me and my cousin have done this a lot. that if you boot in safe mode, you can switch/change user accounts, or at least have access to the files, enable and disable multi-user log in's, and other stuff like that.

I also know that you can access the files if you do a system repair (not restore, it may erase files), but it pretty much grants you access to Administrator privaleges without erasing too many files (if I am correct). But I guess also, that if you just installed another hard drive onto the system, and then booted an OS from the second-installed hard drive, you'll be able to access the files on the hard drive with equal ease.

there are hacks out there that let you smash through passwords in WinXP, but I wouldn't go there, since backdoors have their ways of opening insecurely, and not to mention the EULA wouldn't be proudly upheld for you.

good luck

Well what I was getting at is that you can't just reboot because the Administrator account (although now visible without Ctrl + Alt + Delete) should still be passworded.

And you wouldn't be able to access System Repair because the computer would have a passworded BIOS which would only allow booting from the hard drive.

Honestly when I said that it meant that you wouldn't get into a computer that was well secured against tampering attempts by employees.
 
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