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Windows XP Beta 2 to introduce new user interface

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XP looks like something a child would enjoy using. I personally like the 98 GUI better. I don't like ME either, I wish Microsoft would keep the look and feel the same as 98, but come out with faster, more stable versions. Windows 2000 Pro looks like the reigning champ to me, if only I had the money *sigh* . . .
 
At this time there is only support for the Itanium. M$ has not said anything about supporting the AMD cpu which is not as far along as the Itanium.

The AMD sledgehammer makes more sense though because the Itanium is slow at running 32 bit software where as the SH will run at normal speed.
 
yeah but I think we should make the move to complete 64-bit and leave x86 behind. Backwards compatibilty means virtually nothing to me. x86 is crap (of course I haven't looked at Itanium's archetectual specs, but I'm assuming they couldn't come up with a design as crappy as x86 all over again). Why do you think X-Box at 733mhz is gonna have a hard time matching Gamecube at 400mhz? Why do you hear G4 owners brag about how their 500mhz CPU can top an 800mhz x86 CPU? Have you seen a 200mhz PC processor have anywhere near the capabilites of a Dreamcast? It's because x86 sucks. AMD is going the backwards compatible route, and there is merit in that (I just hope this doens't come back and bite them where it hurts as I really like AMD and would hate to see them go under), but I don't like to see the current state of technology suffer simply to run legacy software. We'll get little speed boost by moving x86 to 64bit. Mainly larger data type sizes (though this move would fix the year 2036 bug for Unix systems). For you beginning programmers, an int, and long will be able to hold larger numbers (or smaller numbers on the negative side) and floats and doubles will be able to be more precise.
 
Looks like I'm going to stay with Win2000 for a while - I'm sorry, that looks like complete and utter crapola.
 


<< yeah but I think we should make the move to complete 64-bit and leave x86 behind. Backwards compatibilty means virtually nothing to me. x86 is crap (of course I haven't looked at Itanium's archetectual specs, but I'm assuming they couldn't come up with a design as crappy as x86 all over again). Why do you think X-Box at 733mhz is gonna have a hard time matching Gamecube at 400mhz? Why do you hear G4 owners brag about how their 500mhz CPU can top an 800mhz x86 CPU? Have you seen a 200mhz PC processor have anywhere near the capabilites of a Dreamcast? It's because x86 sucks. AMD is going the backwards compatible route, and there is merit in that (I just hope this doens't come back and bite them where it hurts as I really like AMD and would hate to see them go under), but I don't like to see the current state of technology suffer simply to run legacy software. We'll get little speed boost by moving x86 to 64bit. Mainly larger data type sizes (though this move would fix the year 2036 bug for Unix systems). For you beginning programmers, an int, and long will be able to hold larger numbers (or smaller numbers on the negative side) and floats and doubles will be able to be more precise. >>



It's easy if your talking about one computer in your home but if your a business and you've got hundreds of machines than it's alot more complicated. You need to get all new software to make them run at full speed on a 64 bit system. Running a 32 bit program on a 64 bit Itanium is as fast as a 100mhz pentium from the test reports. That's a real problem for Intel. The sledgehammer will do it better but won't be as fast in 64 bit mode. Upgrading to all 64 bit software licenses will be very expensive for businesses and many will take a pass and wait it out. 32 bit will be with for a while still.
 
Jacobnero: I don't think it would be a problem personally. I'm a work-study in the IT department of a University. We cary around the special &quot;TSP&quot; cd for all the platforms we support, since not all machines are ever upgraded at once, and some professors prefer to use a Mac. We have seperate software for Win9x, Windows NT/2000, and for MacOS. I don't personally service them (different department) but we also have many Sun Solaris machines here that get along fine. All machines don't have to be the same on a network to cooperate. The basics (Windows, Office, Antivirus, etc) will be available almost immediately and any programs that run under Java won't be affected (Oracle Database is a program we use extensively and serves as a good example). Any companies or even individuals who need to run software that hasn't been ported yet to the Itanium platform can simply stick with the older machines until that software becomes available. The thing that must be realised is that most large organizations don't upgrade every computer at once. They upgrade only so many at a time. The solution would be to simply delgate those upgrades to those who will be using already supported apps. Of course in an open source world we could simply have everyone mount their apps from an NFS server and just recompile for Itanium one time and have the whole problem solved. That's just wishful thining though 🙂.
 
Did anyone notice that it said &quot;Kitchen Computer&quot; on the first screen shot. Maybe it is just me, but I do not think that type of computer has a place in the kitchen. 😉 As for the GUI, I think that it is geared towards 1st graders. Last time I checked I did not need to have my hand held, I am not a little kid anymore.
 
MGMorden: I guess it depends on the business but the software companies charge a crap load for licenses to corporations and I doubt to many will want to go to a full 64 bit system overnight if the one there using now is working ok.
 


<< a freakin java interface? >>


Where did you read that? From what I've read the interface was put together with XML.
 
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