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Windows Vista 5231 Leaks (Screenshots)

Meh I'm sorry but I have yet to see anything from Windows Vista that impresses me yet. Hell most of the stuff that I do see that's different can be accomplised by third party programs.
 
So exactly what part of it looks like KDE, Gnome, Flux or any other Linux Desktop??

Unless you are talking about KDE's start button in which case I think you have the cart and the horse the wrong way round 😉
 
I'm looking forward to it - already testing the current version. Glad that features such as UAP are going to be there, this should help to improve overall security.
 
Looks like any other Windows version, though of course the improvements in Vista won't be in the shell.

On a sidenote, I found that "Your copy of Windows is now genuine" quite funny, kinda implies it wasn't genuine to begin with 😉
Oh and I love the icon for the trashcan, beautiful.
 
I always found screenies like this rather pointless as they rarely show anything more than a new skin. I did notice a few things though:
-IE showing a sort of thumbnail of the contents of each tab in one screen. Looks like a good idea (and a good use of opengl on the desktop?) and it's nice to see ms actually come up with something new instead of just copying all the now-standard features like tabs and a search box. This may be quite hard for anything other than Safari to imitate.
-an option to turn UAP off. wtf? I don't see why that should even be an option, unless it's just for convenience in the betas and will be removed (or at least made harder to find)
-some desktop widgets like a clock and a search box. seems like basically just catching up to other products like kde, gnome and osx
-games represented by single icons instead of a folder with the executable somewhere within, à la os x. probably a good idea for non-technical people

I think they should change the IE icon because it's become kind of a negative symbol (at least to those who have moved off to other browsers). I know when I see it I think "Eww, that's IE. I don't want to click on that." 😛 I'm assuming that ie7 will actually be much better 🙂
 
Originally posted by: kamper
-IE showing a sort of thumbnail of the contents of each tab in one screen. Looks like a good idea (and a good use of opengl on the desktop?) and it's nice to see ms actually come up with something new instead of just copying all the now-standard features
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Agreed - was a nice surprise to see 🙂

-an option to turn UAP off. wtf? I don't see why that should even be an option, unless it's just for convenience in the betas and will be removed (or at least made harder to find)
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Agree with you entirely, in one swoop they could remove the source of 90% of the malware and viruses by removing the weakest link in the chain - dumb users!

-some desktop widgets like a clock and a search box. seems like basically just catching up to other products like kde, gnome and osx
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Disagree totally!!! Widgets, gdesklets, or whatever you have seen are available for all OS's and have never been the sole property of Mac or *nux. See Stardock/Samurize for mature and extremely popular Windows widget goodness that have been around a long time.

-games represented by single icons instead of a folder with the executable somewhere within, à la os x. probably a good idea for non-technical people
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But they have always been on the start menu... still I like it too just for convenience.
 
I always found screenies like this rather pointless as they rarely show anything more than a new skin.
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Agreed, especially since these are one of those interim builds. Also remember the windows whistler builds? They were (appearance-wise) nothing like the XP that we know today; so dont get too attached to the look in these builds.
I'm assuming that ie7 will actually be much better
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It will be, MS knows they are "behind the times" with IE 6 and they are putting a lot of work into IE 7. They want it not only compete but continue to be the major player in the browser world; thanks to some of their lawsuits in the past they are forced to give people a reason to run it rather than just bundling it with Windows and assuming people will, I think the reasons will be there for most.

Keep in mind that they do new builds of Vista nearly every day, so just because this one "looks" a certain way doesnt mean that much. Wait for Beta 2, that will be a lot more like the future releases than these builds.

-Erik
 
Originally posted by: Seeruk
-some desktop widgets like a clock and a search box. seems like basically just catching up to other products like kde, gnome and osx
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Disagree totally!!! Widgets, gdesklets, or whatever you have seen are available for all OS's and have never been the sole property of Mac or *nux. See Stardock/Samurize for mature and extremely popular Windows widget goodness that have been around a long time.
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I was thinking of stuff not requiring a 3rd party framework for support (I'm assuming that stardock/samurize are such things) but now that I think about it, karamba and gdesklets aren't part of the standard gnome and kde distributions so you are correct. Still, I bet the average gnome/kde/osx/other wm user is more aware of the widget options available than the average windows user. Also, I think kde4 will have this sort of extensibility in some form and may (or may not) be out before vista.

In the end, how useful a widget is depends in a huge way on the actual implementation of the framework. I think dashboard widgets are nice, but there's only a few that I really find useful because they're not always easy to use. If ms does a good job with theirs they may surpass all the others by a ways.
 
Originally posted by: nsafreak
Meh I'm sorry but I have yet to see anything from Windows Vista that impresses me yet. Hell most of the stuff that I do see that's different can be accomplised by third party programs.
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I felt the same way until I read the Microsoft website about Vista (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista)), there's a lot of good stuff for IT Professionals and network admins being included. :thumbsup:

[Edit] http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/it-professionals.mspx

Windows Imaging Format sounds fantastic - add/remove device drivers etc before the image is deployed, so the same image should work with more machines. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: kamper
Still, I bet the average gnome/kde/osx/other wm user is more aware of the widget options available than the average windows user. Also, I think kde4 will have this sort of extensibility in some form and may (or may not) be out before vista.

In the end, how useful a widget is depends in a huge way on the actual implementation of the framework. I think dashboard widgets are nice, but there's only a few that I really find useful because they're not always easy to use. If ms does a good job with theirs they may surpass all the others by a ways.
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I think thats cos generally users of non-windows OS's are generally more prone to tweaking and playing around with such stuff. I stumbled upon them (in windows) when looking for4 things to moitor my system in a non intrusive way. I discovered desklets etc for *nix when wanting to monitor when my WLAN had stopped working for the 99th time that day.
The average Joe isnt interested in CPU load, and RAM pages/sec. They are generally (well my dad and a few others I have shown) blown away when they do see something like the weather desklets etc and havent been able to live without them since!
 
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