1998? Was that like 12 years ago? Ok so thats relevant today how?
Its a creative device, but how it handled social networking sucked. So it just wasn't price.
1998? Was that like 12 years ago? Ok so thats relevant today how?
Its a creative device, but how it handled social networking sucked. So it just wasn't price.
QueBert
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I know it's not identical, but the IU of WM7 looks a lot like my Zune HD's from what I've seen. I think the Zune's UI is pretty good, but, and a big but. That's mostly because there's not a lot going on. I have Music, Videos, marketplace and a few apps. No way in hell I'd want the complexity of a smart phone with a Zune HD UI. If the Zune HD did half as much as my iPod Touch, I wouldn't use the bitch. While I'm willing to give WM7 phones a chance, the outlook isn't good.
And that last part isn't my hastily based opinion from the small bit of video I've seen. My Magic 8 Ball made the prediction
And that last part isn't my hastily based opinion from the small bit of video I've seen. My Magic 8 Ball made the prediction
Deeko
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Its relevant because he's clearly a Mac fan, and in case you haven't been paying attention, Mac fans typically hate Microsoft everything, no matter what. Look at his more recent articles on Infoworld, the majority of them are Apple articles. Even if he's not with Macworld anymore, its clear his bias hasn't gone away.
finbarqs
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It's funny, a few years ago, everyone either was stuck in Microsoft's monopolistic ways with no way out but a tedious apple computer, or linux. Fast foward to today, and even Microsoft wants to be the next Apple! Heil the bitten apple! Forrest Gump sure got lucky with his investment in the "fruit" company!
zerocool84
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Only in the mobile segment would they want to be like Apple. They can't be like Apple in the desktop segment.
The "tone" of the article discredits it for me. You can write a critical review, but if you use the wrong adjectives then it gets invalidated IMO.
lol, so I assume that a 'windows fan' can't rationally review any mac. Or a Android lover can't comment on a blackberry or iPhone.
Who cares about the messenger. His points, especially the one about the clunky interface, line up with what we have seen of WP7 so far.
That's kinds of what I meant. It was well thought out but, because of turf wars, the product was delayed for various reasons until the carrier took away their special pricing.
notposting
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Pretty troubling article despite the valid red flags about the author and his point of view.
The Metro idea is supposedly similar to the interface for WMC as well as the Zune (which I don't have). It sounds like the designers aren't listening to feedback either. I would hate getting buried in some menus and then having to swipe all the way to the top level to get back. Ballmer probably told them "THE IPHONE HAS SWIPES MAKE THE WHOLE INTERFACE USE THEM". Or something. Rather than real thought being behind it, just copy the other guys +1. And having shit trailing off the screen sounds/looks annoying. Put a goddamn scroll bar, next or more button, something, damnit.
Guess I'll be rocking Android going forward...maybe WebOS depending on what HPalm cooks up (not optimistic).
The Metro idea is supposedly similar to the interface for WMC as well as the Zune (which I don't have). It sounds like the designers aren't listening to feedback either. I would hate getting buried in some menus and then having to swipe all the way to the top level to get back. Ballmer probably told them "THE IPHONE HAS SWIPES MAKE THE WHOLE INTERFACE USE THEM". Or something. Rather than real thought being behind it, just copy the other guys +1. And having shit trailing off the screen sounds/looks annoying. Put a goddamn scroll bar, next or more button, something, damnit.
Guess I'll be rocking Android going forward...maybe WebOS depending on what HPalm cooks up (not optimistic
).
DivideBYZero
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Pliablemoose
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I looked at the OS's GUI when it was announced, I still think it looks like hell and agree with the author.
The best thing Microsoft could do right now is continue with it, but start releasing software for phones, like Office for Android & the iPhone, Zune Pass for Android anyone?
They could actually make some money and stay the hell out of the OS wars, at least for now...
The best thing Microsoft could do right now is continue with it, but start releasing software for phones, like Office for Android & the iPhone, Zune Pass for Android anyone?
They could actually make some money and stay the hell out of the OS wars, at least for now...
Deeko
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Does being so intricately involved in the Android vs iPhone battles on here keep you from realizing how ridiculous both sides are? Have you actually objectively looked at what Android fans say about the iPhone, and what iPhone fans say about Android? Fanboys will be fanboys, and they will thrash products that go against the loves of their lives.
As I pointed out earlier - just look at what the guy said. His tone is clearly not just critical, but malicious. And he says he liked what he saw when it was announced in February....but then the bulk of his article, if he's not (probably incorrectly) paraphrasing someone from Microsoft, he's attacking features that were clearly shown back in February!
It is very clear that this writer has an anti-Microsoft agenda, and while you say "who cares about the messenger", well, when that messenger is writing a scathing review of a product he would have hated no matter what, while making multiple statements throughout the article that are just not even true....yea, I think considering the context of the article is important.
And for what its worth - considering the UI is based off the Zune HD (which, despite the article author's digs at, is generally positively reviewed, even if the devices weren't exactly a smash in the market), and I rather like the Zune HD's interface...I can't say I have too much of a problem with it.
Nebor
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If they did that they'd lose people like me, that will are still using WM6.5 and want Zune Pass and Office on the phone.
Pliablemoose
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I have a pretty good port of office on my HD2, and use it every day.
MS has an opportunity here to actually make a ton of cash if they were to sell their software for other phones. Bing is actually pretty good, and I use it's navigation frequently.
I'm not saying they should bail on WM OS, I just think supplying software for the dominant platforms would be a good business move.
I'm pretty sure the back button negates having to swipe your way out of something.
Paul Thurott has a pretty good response piece... http://windowsphonesecrets.com/2010/07/16/dont-bother-with-this-blog-post-disaster/
foghorn67
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Really? Because the press liked it. Maybe I can put an Apple watermark on there, maybe then you will like it.
Garbage UI would be a grid of icons, like how it was in 1992.
Paul Thurott: Author of the upcoming book, "Windows Phone 7 Secrets"
Not exactly an unbiased source.
I don't know about Zune Pass, XBL, and Office, but I read a Bing app for android is imminent.
No but he does have a lot of hands on time with a Windows Phone 7, I believe he may actually have a developer's version now too.
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preslove
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Sure, both have biases, but Thurott has actually used the OS, whereas the author in OP hasn't.
sciwizam
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He said he does, in his weekly podcast with Leo Laporte. He also talked about the article in the OP.
http://twit.tv/ww165
Nebor
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If they put Zune and Office on Anrdoid I'd buy an X10a tomorrow. They're better off keeping it for WP7 so I buy one of those.
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