Only HD content from Blu-Ray/HD-DVD discs and WMV-HD, at least for now. There's still nothing preventing you from viewing DivX HD or HDTV (broadcast flag hasn't passed). I don't see how it's going to prevent piracy anyway. As long as one cracker in a group figures out how to get it (even if just one person has the device to decode HDCP (already available BTW)), then it's useless. Obviously he'd re-encode it into XviD or x264 and upload it. XviD and x264 aren't affected by HDCP, so it's useless once the movie is actually released by a group. Besides, any competent engineer wouldn't have much trouble opening up a DVI-input monitor and bypassing this worthless "protection". The digital data is still available over DVI/HDMI. In the end the only people it harms is the truthful, innocent end-users. The crackers ALWAYS have their ways around stuff.
Only HD content from Blu-Ray/HD-DVD discs and WMV-HD, at least for now. There's still nothing preventing you from viewing DivX HD or HDTV (broadcast flag hasn't passed). I don't see how it's going to prevent piracy anyway. As long as one cracker in a group figures out how to get it (even if just one person has the device to decode HDCP (already available BTW)), then it's useless. Obviously he'd re-encode it into XviD or x264 and upload it. XviD and x264 aren't affected by HDCP, so it's useless once the movie is actually released by a group. Besides, any competent engineer wouldn't have much trouble opening up a DVI-input monitor and bypassing this worthless "protection". The digital data is still available over DVI/HDMI. In the end the only people it harms is the truthful, innocent end-users. The crackers ALWAYS have their ways around stuff.
Thank you! A mature response!
Anyway, believe it or not, but there are no laws restricting illegal downloading. The reason why is because the term "illegal downloading" is too loose to interprete at this point. It has been discussed, but as of right now, there are no illegal download law in the US.
Well, I understand what the views are with Vista. However, I'm not saying not to use it. I'm simply saying to wait a bit to see what is incorporated into the OS. That is what I'm going to do. It's the same thing I did when XP was released, but for other reasons.
Dude, what world are you living in????
COPYRIGHT LAW maybe?????
OMFG I can't believe what a FUD and misinformation spreading tard you are.
File sharing is different from downloading. When you're sharing a file, you're giving it to someone else. File-sharing involves uploading.
The RIAA catches people by sending bots to download from other people. The RIAA specifically targets people who file-share a lot of music. Those who do not share are not effected. But, of course you knew that.
Copyright laws specifically target the illegal act of copying media. (Thus the copy in "Copyright"). When you're downloading a file, you're simply taking what is already available. Downloading has little to do with copyrights since it not "copying".
Here's an example. If I went to a blackmarket shop and decided to take a free DVD of Unleashed that they had as some sort of complimentary treat, would I be violating copyright laws or would the person with the shop be violating copyright laws? The answer is simple. The person distributing the products.
They might not be affected by the RIAA's searches, but that doesn't make what they are doing legal. You're speaking to illegal distribution, I'm speaking to copyright violations.
So? The work is still copyrighted. Downloading illegal movies is copying a copyrighted media. You don't have to be the one making the first copy from the original media.
If that was the case, then we shouldn't be allowed to rip and burn media. Since it deals with copying copyright media.
VCRs shouldn't have the record feature, because when that movie comes on HBO, we are copying copyright media
DJs shouldn't make Mix CDs because they are not only copying copyright media, but they're altering the media and then playing it over the radio where tens of thousands of others can listen.
Do you see where this is headed?
Well copyright law is a bit murky (to me at least) on this point. Is it legal to download illegally distributed copyrighted works?
In the three examples you list, they could all be legitimately distributed, so Fair Use rights are clear. But it isn't so clear (to me) when the CD you are ripping is pirated or the CDs the DJ is making are from pirated sources.
In the three examples you list, they could all be legitimately distributed, so Fair Use rights are clear. But it isn't so clear (to me) when the CD you are ripping is pirated or the CDs the DJ is making are from pirated sources.
To quote an open source license:
So that license gives yo uthe right to use, copy, modify, and distribute. These are normally things restricted by copyright law. Under fair use you can copy certain things for personal use/backups. This does not include things you do not have permission to use (ie. a DVD you have not purchased).
If you were to distribute the tape with the recorded movie from HBO (or make a copy and distribute it) you would be beyond the protections of fair use.
I don't know about the legality of the mix cds, consult your lawyer.
That's where the interpretation of the law gets shaky. That is why downloading illegal (anything) isn't in the law books.
What if a person who already rightfully paid for the software they bought at Bestbuy were downloading that particular software? What if the person had the DVD that they rightfully paid for and wanted to download it to their computer for an assortment of reasons? There are tons of people out there who archive their DVDs because they are afraid that their DVDs may eventually get scratched. I do know movie fanatics go crazy when a DVD that is no longer in print gets destroyed.
Who are we to say a person doesn't own something? We can't prove it. So, that part of the law hasn't been written because it's so broad.
Give up pirate. Mom said no, so stop trying to justify stealing the candy bar. Be a big boy and pay for it yourself.
I'm not a pirate if I'm not "blunder'n da loot, matey!"
You obviously know very little, Smilin.
I can't be stealing a candy bar, if it was handed to me.
Besides, The argument isn't about me stealing. I haven't been downloading movies at all. I use Netflix. If I wanted to copy a movie, I'd order it from Netflix and burn a copy of the DVD; but I don't!
The original topic was about DRM. Everything you tried to defend about DRM was blown up . It won't stop piracy, and it'll do nothing but hurt consumers. There is nothing you can say that will change that.
'Ah har mate!
Downloading copyrighted content you own is grey (if you own it, why download a copy?)
Downloading copyrighted material you do not own is illegal and wrong. No amount of loopholes/excuses makes this right. I'm not even talking legal/illegal, lets talk right or wrong. It is wrong to pirate music/software/movies.
If I walk into a store, and hand you a candy bar, and you walk out with it, who will get arrested, you or me?
If you get a pirated DVD, and know that it is pirated, then you are in the wrong, and I think you are legally liable for lost reveue to the movie studios.
As a side note, I'm very uncomfortable with the direction DRM is taking. I don't feel that way because I use things illegally, but I'm limited to what I can do with my things. I want to back up my DVD, I want to be able to rip my CD's to MP3. Until we, as a society, grow up and realize right/wrong in this, then we will continue to have DRM/encryption/new "protection" ideas pushed on us.
Downloading copyrighted material you do not own is illegal and wrong. No amount of loopholes/excuses makes this right. I'm not even talking legal/illegal, lets talk right or wrong. It is wrong to pirate music/software/movies.
If I walk into a store, and hand you a candy bar, and you walk out with it, who will get arrested, you or me?
If you get a pirated DVD, and know that it is pirated, then you are in the wrong, and I think you are legally liable for lost reveue to the movie studios.
As a side note, I'm very uncomfortable with the direction DRM is taking. I don't feel that way because I use things illegally, but I'm limited to what I can do with my things. I want to back up my DVD, I want to be able to rip my CD's to MP3. Until we, as a society, grow up and realize right/wrong in this, then we will continue to have DRM/encryption/new "protection" ideas pushed on us.
I agree with you. Downloading is a grey area, but oh well... You are right...
I agree with the second part of your post as well
After all the talk about copyright laws and pirating software why would you admit to this?
Running "leaked betas" is just as illegal as running a pirated copy of XP Pro. Dont do it, it's illegal. Right now there is a limited group of people who are allowed access to the betas. If you want to run the betas than wait for the public beta program to start (which AFAIK is not far off now).
Are we identifying ourselves to the various companies and law enforcement agencies? Are we crying for help?
"Please stop us!" "We really do not want to use stolen software! But we can't help ourselves"
"Please stop us!" "We really do not want to use stolen software! But we can't help ourselves"
Originally posted by: RegisteredJack
Are we identifying ourselves to the various companies and law enforcement agencies? Are we crying for help?
"Please stop us!" "We really do not want to use stolen software! But we can't help ourselves"
Good point.
Some of these people swear that DRM is helping them when it's really not. It doesn't do a single thing for the consumer.
Quinton you are a tool
Others do a far more elequent job of pointing it out than me .... but here lie the same 3 points you posted with the points you cant seem to get through your thick head.
1) Yes, you do need a monitor that supports HDCP to view HD content.
-AS WILL APPLE AND LINUX ... THIS IS HARDWARE LEVEL DRM
-IN FACT LINUX MAY HAVE TROUBLE AS ANY ATTEMPT TO WRITE SOMETHING FOR HDTV IS ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF BEING MADE ILLEGAL!
-TELL ME ARE YOU ABLE TO WATCH HDTV ON YOUR 20 YEAR OLD BLACK AND WHITE TV?
See what irked people above is the fact you brought this up as an anti MS rant and its complete crap. There are for more valid things to rant about in Vista... but here you are just trolling as well as spewing misinformed crap
Others do a far more elequent job of pointing it out than me .... but here lie the same 3 points you posted with the points you cant seem to get through your thick head.
1) Yes, you do need a monitor that supports HDCP to view HD content.
-AS WILL APPLE AND LINUX ... THIS IS HARDWARE LEVEL DRM
-IN FACT LINUX MAY HAVE TROUBLE AS ANY ATTEMPT TO WRITE SOMETHING FOR HDTV IS ALREADY IN THE PROCESS OF BEING MADE ILLEGAL!
-TELL ME ARE YOU ABLE TO WATCH HDTV ON YOUR 20 YEAR OLD BLACK AND WHITE TV?
See what irked people above is the fact you brought this up as an anti MS rant and its complete crap. There are for more valid things to rant about in Vista... but here you are just trolling as well as spewing misinformed crap
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