Windows is simply a better multitasking OS

[Oyeve]

Each OS, IMO, multi-tasks equally. If you know how to tweak the OS'es multitasking its pretty much a non-issue.

 

[Ns1]

In OS X, I hit space to quicklook, hit enter to rename it, and type the number while looking at the image. This is something that comes up anywhere from 3 times a day, to 10 times an hour.

I have never heard of this and must take a look when I get home.


You know what grinds my gears about OSX file management? Automatically sorting by name as soon as you rename a file. FUCK.

 

[Ns1]

See, I just remember what I have open. I must just not multitask enough.

If you don't have 5 browers with 8 tabs, 8 excel documents, 4 pdf's, 3 finder windows, and a host of other programs running at the same time, you're doing it wrong.

 

[TheStu]

I have never heard of this and must take a look when I get home.


You know what grinds my gears about OSX file management? Automatically sorting by name as soon as you rename a file. FUCK.

Yea, it is a little TOO quick to be helpful in that regard.

 

[Ns1]

Yea, it is a little TOO quick to be helpful in that regard.

I had to change my workflow to move to the next file before it automatically sorts by filename. I have a 50% success rate

 

[cheez]

For starters, there's no transparency. This means I can't really see what windows are open behind me if they are directly behind the current window. Now I can do the finger shortcuts to bring them up, but that's an extra step that I don't have to do in Windows.

Same here. I spend more time "finding" the previously opened windows on desktop. I have to check every single icon on the bottom of the screen.. they all look similar so there is no way to tell what da heck it is... unless I open them one by one.

Windows also makes much better use of screen real-estate. For an app in OSX to use the full screen it has to enter into fullscreen mode which is cumbersome. In Windows it's so bloody simple, double click the top title bar and voila. Also I can shuffle windows around very easily in Windows so that I can view them side by side.

Funny you said that. I still have an habit of double clicking the top title bar on Mac OS X.... nothing happens. :sneaky: I have to click on + sign to full screen it. Inconvenient.

What really bugs me a big huge time is it takes like 15~ 40 seconds to open a picture file... even something as small as 5 kb. Apple designed it in such way to take longest time to open a picture file. This is like, insane. If I was the project engineer I would do it the opposite. With my Server 2003 I can open a large picture file in less than 1 sec. And that's with only 1 stick (no dual channel - for now) of 1GB ram......

Video playback is another problem. Windows XP and Server 2003 trumps Win7 and OS X. There is special program made by Russians (German, previously) that only works with Windows XP, Vista, Server 2003, and Server 2008 R1.

However one of the things I like about OS X is the convenience of screen capturing. It's so easy and painless. Once captured, it creates the picture file and drop right in to my desktop.... that's a killer feature on OS X. The best screen capturing technique ever produced on earth.

You might consider waiting a bit, windows 8 interface is ridiculous, which is scheduled to be out sometime in the next couple of months.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to try out the release preview which is available to download for free now, use something like vmware-player to run it.

VMWare will slow down the performance. Sluggish = Fail

 

[MBrown]

I think Windows 7 is the best desktop OS ever made. Working on a 27" monitor doing school work is so much better with aero snap. I wont go near Windows 8 unless its on a tablet and is less than $300.

 

[sourceninja]

I have never heard of this and must take a look when I get home.


You know what grinds my gears about OSX file management? Automatically sorting by name as soon as you rename a file. FUCK.

I have used osx for years and I don't think I've ever used finder for file management. In fact I recently moved a few hundred gig of files around so I could do a clean install of mountain lion and I used rsync.

 

[TheStu]

I have used osx for years and I don't think I've ever used finder for file management. In fact I recently moved a few hundred gig of files around so I could do a clean install of mountain lion and I used rsync.

Well, what I was talking about was less about file management (though I do use the finder, I am a GUI guy for the most part) and more about file name management.

 

[sourceninja]

Well, what I was talking about was less about file management (though I do use the finder, I am a GUI guy for the most part) and more about file name management.

I consider that file management. I use dterm for context sensitive terminal windows. So I press ctrl-space and get a small terminal window for the selected window (so on the desktop it's /User/name/Desktop and I just type mv oldname newname or write a script if I'm renaming in batch (or do something like 'rename 's/old_pattern.ext/new_pattern.ext/' *.ext')

I basically live in the terminal, so much I have a full screen terminal open at all times.

 

[McWatt]

For those who like Expose and work in Windows, Switcher (http://insentient.net/) works in Windows 7 and is honestly a better implementation of the concept than has appeared in OSX.

Sometimes alt-tab, snapping windows, and the taskbar are faster. Sometimes Expose is faster. Whatever OS you're using, go through the couple minutes of customization to give you the best of both worlds.

 

[PricklyPete]

I was a diehard windows user for years. Switched to OSX (forced by company) 5 years ago and now I have a hard time going back to Windows...primarily because i rely on Expose so much for multi-tasking. That being said "Switcher" mentioned above would fix that issue for me and I certainly will use when I move back to Windows (new job starting soon).

 

[dave_the_nerd]

The primary point was that during the life of OS X you were literally forced to buy several new PCs in order to run the latest release, but that's not the case with Windows.

Not really. Certainly not several. At least, depending on what you mean by "several."

It really just depends on which machines you bought and when. Buying low-end, artificially handicapped machines is a surefire way to screw yourself regardless of OS. Remember 2000-2002, and all those i815 laptops with 512MB memory ceilings?

And don't forget that nasty PPC -> x86 transition (and now the x86 -> x64 transition.) That's a big mess that Microsoft just didn't have to deal with. (I seriously knew people with iBooks and Power Macs that were still under AppleCare warranties when 10.6 came out and dropped PPC support.)

Personally, I think it excuses a lot, even if Apple wasn't particularly "nice" about it. Major architecture shifts are a big deal, and you have to give up legacy support sometime.

But if you really want to keep a computer for ten years, nobody is forcing you. It's not like there's an Apple Mafia that show up at your house if you're not running the latest OS. Sure, you might get behind on some software updates, but security patches still get pushed out. (10.5 came out in 2007, security patches for 10.4 were still being released at least in '09.)

I've skipped more OS X revisions than I've actually used, delayed upgrading to 10.7 for almost a year, and will probably skip 10.8 and iOS 6 completely if there's no killer app I haven't heard about yet.

Likewise, I upgraded from Win2k to XP in '06 and to Win7 in 2011.

"If it ain't broke."

 

[Dug]

Same here. I spend more time "finding" the previously opened windows on desktop. I have to check every single icon on the bottom of the screen.. they all look similar so there is no way to tell what da heck it is... unless I open them one by one.


Funny you said that. I still have an habit of double clicking the top title bar on Mac OS X.... nothing happens. :sneaky: I have to click on + sign to full screen it. Inconvenient.

What really bugs me a big huge time is it takes like 15~ 40 seconds to open a picture file... even something as small as 5 kb. Apple designed it in such way to take longest time to open a picture file. This is like, insane. If I was the project engineer I would do it the opposite. With my Server 2003 I can open a large picture file in less than 1 sec. And that's with only 1 stick (no dual channel - for now) of 1GB ram......

Video playback is another problem. Windows XP and Server 2003 trumps Win7 and OS X. There is special program made by Russians (German, previously) that only works with Windows XP, Vista, Server 2003, and Server 2008 R1.

However one of the things I like about OS X is the convenience of screen capturing. It's so easy and painless. Once captured, it creates the picture file and drop right in to my desktop.... that's a killer feature on OS X. The best screen capturing technique ever produced on earth.



VMWare will slow down the performance. Sluggish = Fail

For OS X have you ever tried the space bar to open a file? It's instant.

For Windows 7 have you ever tried the snipping tool? It's built in. You can customize it any way you want, grab portions of screens, entire desktop, manually draw the area you want, and annotate on it right after the capture.

 

[Dug]

For multitasking I still think Quicksilver is the best program ever made. If you really learn how to use it, it is the most powerful program out there. If you use it just as an app launcher you might as well use spotlight. But it saves literally hours of pointing and clicking if you get into it. For instance I can call up a file, rename it, and email it in just a few key strokes.

 

[MagickMan]

God, Win8 is a train wreck. Saw it this week and laughed until my sides hurt. I'll just keep dual-booting OSX and Win7 on my Hackintosh.

 

[Sureshot324]

You can make a case for expose/mission control being useful on a laptop with a trackpad, but on a desktop with a mouse, taskbar > *.

 

[TheStu]

You can make a case for expose/mission control being useful on a laptop with a trackpad, but on a desktop with a mouse, taskbar > *.

You know what my biggest irk is with the Windows 7 taskbar? I can't just click on an icon in there to bring up the application. Instead I have to choose the thumbnail, an annoying 2 step process.

 

[ControlD]

You know what my biggest irk is with the Windows 7 taskbar? I can't just click on an icon in there to bring up the application. Instead I have to choose the thumbnail, an annoying 2 step process.

That's only true if the application has more than one instance or window open however. I agree it would be nice if the default action was to restore the application to the last open window however when multiple windows/instances are open. I guess in many cases even having a one click operation would require at least a 2-step process, restore (click) and then Ctrl-Tab to get the right instance.

 

[TheStu]

That's only true if the application has more than one instance or window open however. I agree it would be nice if the default action was to restore the application to the last open window however when multiple windows/instances are open. I guess in many cases even having a one click operation would require at least a 2-step process, restore (click) and then Ctrl-Tab to get the right instance.

For work I use Outlook, Acrobat, IE and Excel, and basically that is it. However, from those 4 I will usually have tons of separate tabs and windows open, so it is a pain every single day. At least you can middle click the thumbnail to close the window.

 

[Oyeve]

God, Win8 is a train wreck. Saw it this week and laughed until my sides hurt. I'll just keep dual-booting OSX and Win7 on my Hackintosh.

Wow, you aint kidding. I just looked at the preview. My God, WTF?

 

[sourceninja]

My workday consists of several (probably 10) ssh connections, numerous scripts to automate tasks, a few log viewers, textmate with about 5-10 things open, springsource tool kit, a browser with a couple entertainment tabs open and a browser with work tabs open, an im client, oracle sql developer, excel, and sometimes (although rarely) photoshop or xcode.

I try to group stuff on to desktops. So I keep my terminals on one desktop, my fun stuff on another, and the rest of my work stuff on a 3rd. For bit apps like STS, photoshop, or xcode, I want them and any associated browser windows on their own desktop.

Then the magic pad and gestures takes care of the rest.

 

[dlock13]

My workday consists of several (probably 10) ssh connections, numerous scripts to automate tasks, a few log viewers, textmate with about 5-10 things open, springsource tool kit, a browser with a couple entertainment tabs open and a browser with work tabs open, an im client, oracle sql developer, excel, and sometimes (although rarely) photoshop or xcode.

I try to group stuff on to desktops. So I keep my terminals on one desktop, my fun stuff on another, and the rest of my work stuff on a 3rd. For bit apps like STS, photoshop, or xcode, I want them and any associated browser windows on their own desktop.

Then the magic pad and gestures takes care of the rest.

This is one thing I've never understood why MS hasn't implemented. Sure, Windows 7's "superbar" takes care of the grouping fairly well, and you only have so many icons that show up down there but still take up the same exact screen.

I love the idea of having multiple desktops. I know there are several extensions that you can install to get something similar on Windows, but it's obviously never as fluid, never as good, always takes up more memory and speed than it's worth and usually quite buggy.

I really would love to get a MacBook and just switch to OSX, but I can't justify the cost to get in.

 

[sourceninja]

This is one thing I've never understood why MS hasn't implemented. Sure, Windows 7's "superbar" takes care of the grouping fairly well, and you only have so many icons that show up down there but still take up the same exact screen.

I love the idea of having multiple desktops. I know there are several extensions that you can install to get something similar on Windows, but it's obviously never as fluid, never as good, always takes up more memory and speed than it's worth and usually quite buggy.

I really would love to get a MacBook and just switch to OSX, but I can't justify the cost to get in.

As much as I like it, as soon as there is a linux notebook with a large smooth like glass touchpad I'm out. Apple's practices have been turning me off lately.

 

[TheStu]

As much as I like it, as soon as there is a linux notebook with a large smooth like glass touchpad I'm out. Apple's practices have been turning me off lately.

Have you put Linux onto the MacBook? Can it handle the trackpad properly? That is the key, you don't just need the hardware, you need the drivers for it as well.