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Continuity28

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Originally posted by: LtPage1
How much would you need for a complete XP Pro, with a lot of addons, skins, konfabulator widgets, etc. and the like? Could you hold all of that on 4GB?

This is something you should figure out on your own.

nLite is a program you can use to strip down your Windows XP installation so that it will fit on the size you want. For example, if you don't want Windows Media Player... strip it out, along with thousands of other programs and services you probably don't need/want.

Try it out and see how small you can get Windows to be without losing anything important to you.
 

letdown427

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Originally posted by: Continuity28
Originally posted by: LtPage1
How much would you need for a complete XP Pro, with a lot of addons, skins, konfabulator widgets, etc. and the like? Could you hold all of that on 4GB?

This is something you should figure out on your own.

nLite is a program you can use to strip down your Windows XP installation so that it will fit on the size you want. For example, if you don't want Windows Media Player... strip it out, along with thousands of other programs and services you probably don't need/want.

Try it out and see how small you can get Windows to be without losing anything important to you.


That looks pretty useful, do you use it? Does it have an undo facility?

As in, say if I get rid of IE and so on, then realise, aww crap, I needed that (can't think why, unless IE Tab in firefox somehow uses bits of it) can I go into the program and click a "D'oh I fvcked up" button?

Would be nice to get rid of outlook and messenger and things.
 
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neat, but after reading the article on it, i think there's better ways to spend the money so far as bang for the buck goes...at least for my rig
 

chiwawa626

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But wait, lets say that there was a power outage for like a few hours, and in that time your battery died on the i-ram, then your screwed right?

Useless...
 

Colt45

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that must be sped up a bit, my computer dont post that fast, and the mouse movement is pretty erratic
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: chiwawa626
But wait, lets say that there was a power outage for like a few hours, and in that time your battery died on the i-ram, then your screwed right?

Useless...

Yes. That's why God invented the humble UPS.
 

dman

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Wow, that was a little too quick.
In fact, while I read the bios screens and it looks real enough I still don't believe that was a full cold boot, maybe a hibernation recovery? Or running in a VMWare session? It should take windows longer than 3s to cold boot since it has to intialize hardware and such.

In any event, I wonder if that was booting froma CF Card connected to the IDE bus or via a USB 2.0 or Firewire interface?

I thought about this a while ago, and read up on it. I heard most flash drives aren't really cut out to operate as a boot drive. They'll work fine but the repeated IO (Temp files, etc) wears out the memory sectors faster than usual (they have a limited amount of writes available). If I were to do it, I'd probably move swap and such to another drive anyway... so... maybe it'd last a while.

Wait and see what others report in on I guess.



 

Eli

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Originally posted by: dman
Wow, that was a little too quick.
In fact, while I read the bios screens and it looks real enough I still don't believe that was a full cold boot, maybe a hibernation recovery? Or running in a VMWare session? It should take windows longer than 3s to cold boot since it has to intialize hardware and such.

In any event, I wonder if that was booting froma CF Card connected to the IDE bus or via a USB 2.0 or Firewire interface?

I thought about this a while ago, and read up on it. I heard most flash drives aren't really cut out to operate as a boot drive. They'll work fine but the repeated IO (Temp files, etc) wears out the memory sectors faster than usual (they have a limited amount of writes available). If I were to do it, I'd probably move swap and such to another drive anyway... so... maybe it'd last a while.

Wait and see what others report in on I guess.
It was a warm boot; no ram test.
 

MDE

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Originally posted by: dman
Wow, that was a little too quick.
In fact, while I read the bios screens and it looks real enough I still don't believe that was a full cold boot, maybe a hibernation recovery? Or running in a VMWare session? It should take windows longer than 3s to cold boot since it has to intialize hardware and such.

In any event, I wonder if that was booting froma CF Card connected to the IDE bus or via a USB 2.0 or Firewire interface?

I thought about this a while ago, and read up on it. I heard most flash drives aren't really cut out to operate as a boot drive. They'll work fine but the repeated IO (Temp files, etc) wears out the memory sectors faster than usual (they have a limited amount of writes available). If I were to do it, I'd probably move swap and such to another drive anyway... so... maybe it'd last a while.

Wait and see what others report in on I guess.

Link

It's basically RAM connected via SATA and operating as a hard drive. None of that CF sissy pansy BS.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: kalster
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Originally posted by: kalster
windows sucks, you can book linux from a 32 mb thumb drive/cf card, i use it on a computer with no moving parts, as a router,

Troll elsewhere.

why is it trolling, i was just mentioning using an OS off a flash drive is nothing new, people have been using linux on embedded devices/computers off thumb drives/flash cards since quite some time
TROLL. ELSEWHERE.
 

Kenazo

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Although awesome, boot time is hardly that useful. Unless your computer is constantly crashing, how often do you reboot? Mine's up for weeks at a time.

however, the abilitiy to load games, progs and run searches that quickly would be awesome!
 

Continuity28

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Originally posted by: Kenazo
Although awesome, boot time is hardly that useful. Unless your computer is constantly crashing, how often do you reboot? Mine's up for weeks at a time.

however, the abilitiy to load games, progs and run searches that quickly would be awesome!

Well yeah it's not really the boot time that's important, it's that seeing the boot time being so fast has implications on how quick everything else would be. Like loading games and applications, or paging to the RAMdisk from the system memory while playing said game.
 

GrammatonJP

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Samsung has 16gb working ssd last year.. they're trying to make one up to 32 and 64 gbs. Eventually it'll be cheap enough for us to own one at least 32gb.. it'll kick the living crap out of a raptor 36.. and maybe more..
 

wvtalbot

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Originally posted by: Continuity28
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Although awesome, boot time is hardly that useful. Unless your computer is constantly crashing, how often do you reboot? Mine's up for weeks at a time.

however, the abilitiy to load games, progs and run searches that quickly would be awesome!

Well yeah it's not really the boot time that's important, it's that seeing the boot time being so fast has implications on how quick everything else would be. Like loading games and applications, or paging to the RAMdisk from the system memory while playing said game.


Question is how many apps can you fit on a ramdisk w/a bloated windows install.
 

Cristatus

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Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: Continuity28
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Although awesome, boot time is hardly that useful. Unless your computer is constantly crashing, how often do you reboot? Mine's up for weeks at a time.

however, the abilitiy to load games, progs and run searches that quickly would be awesome!

Well yeah it's not really the boot time that's important, it's that seeing the boot time being so fast has implications on how quick everything else would be. Like loading games and applications, or paging to the RAMdisk from the system memory while playing said game.


Question is how many apps can you fit on a ramdisk w/a bloated windows install.

I was thinking along the same lines as well. Doesn't XP itself need a significant amount of HDD space, and then there is installing stuff life MS Office (I use Ooo, but most other people will use MS Office) and Firefox, and what not.

Also, I think most people would be running a hybrid system, i.e.: using both solid state, and normal HDDs. Wouldn't that cause a bottleneck somewhere. Fair enough, one may install just the OS to the solid state, but when programs have to be loaded from a normal state (is that the right terminology?) onto solid state, what happens?
 

Viper GTS

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Damn.

I already wanted one but that's about enough to make me pull out the CC.

Anybody know if the latest revisions work OK in RAID?

4 GB is a little on the small side...

Viper GTS
 

Kenazo

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Damn.

I already wanted one but that's about enough to make me pull out the CC.

Anybody know if the latest revisions work OK in RAID?

4 GB is a little on the small side...

Viper GTS

Get 10 in Raid 5. :D
 

Cooler

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I cant wait for cheap safe soild state hard drives they are the slowest thing on copmuters these days.
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: Kenazo

Get 10 in Raid 5. :D

Well at one point they wouldn't work in RAID. If they've solved that problem two in RAID0 would be sufficient.

Viper GTS
 

Phlargo

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Quoting: "Batman: "Holyshizz! Where are the Windows bars?!?!" "

Before you get too excited you have to also consider that video is probably just that - a very stripped down version of windows. We don't know anything about device drivers or anything else about the install - when I do a fresh install and streamline it down, my I only get through 1/3rd of a bar (the scrolling bar on startup) and it's in windows.. not much longer than in the video. I'm running on a 7200 RPM hard drive.
 
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I don't get it, is Gigabyte gay now? I didn't think aidanjm posted about anything/anyone unless they were gay......