Windows and BIOS troll me

[Papastache]

The results of overclocking 3.8 ghz can be only shown in speccy and cpuz programs, but windows shows stock speeds of 3.2 in system spec. BIOS shows 3212 MHZ, i have no idea what can be wrong.
mobo is asus h81m-plus version 2104.
What is the problem here?

 

[Flapdrol1337]

Dunno, but if cpuz and speccy say 3.8 your system is running at 3.8

 

[Papastache]

well i having isues with overclocking too it seems i cant go further than 3.8 for some reason. Well i gues i have to update the BIOS. Dunno if it risky or not but hopefully ill be lucky.
Also question is not what speed it running, but what it makes show faulty results.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

Who cares what windows shows, it's the performance that counts.

 

[Burpo]

"Windows reads the CPUID at startup and populates the ProcessorNameString entry accordingly. The CPUID string is the CPU brand string that is returned from the CPUID instruction. Some processors may include the CPU’s maximum-rated frequency as part of the CPU brand string."

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/888282

 

[Papastache]

"Windows reads the CPUID at startup and populates the ProcessorNameString entry accordingly. The CPUID string is the CPU brand string that is returned from the CPUID instruction. Some processors may include the CPU’s maximum-rated frequency as part of the CPU brand string."

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/888282

mhm, just other people who OC have it showen everywhere, but alright what about BIOS then??? when i have on stock bios show speed:3200MHZ when i OC to 3,8 BIOS show 3212MHZ this not alright.... 3 different values in different places..
Damn low budget boards are totaly trash wish i had go for z97

 

[Flapdrol1337]

It doesn't matter what windows shows, if cpu-z shows 3.8 it's running at and performing like a 3.8 cpu.

 

[Ed1]

mhm, just other people who OC have it showen everywhere, but alright what about BIOS then??? when i have on stock bios show speed:3200MHZ when i OC to 3,8 BIOS show 3212MHZ this not alright.... 3 different values in different places..
Damn low budget boards are totaly trash wish i had go for z97

I think many Hxx have issues with OC , if you have problems with bios , maybe try installing Intel XTU and see if you can get OC working there (from within windows) .

 

[Papastache]

I think many Hxx have issues with OC , if you have problems with bios , maybe try installing Intel XTU and see if you can get OC working there (from within windows) .

Can i fix it somehow?

 

[Papastache]

mhm, just other people who OC have it showen everywhere, but alright what about BIOS then??? when i have on stock bios show speed:3200MHZ when i OC to 3,8 BIOS show 3212MHZ this not alright.... 3 different values in different places..
Damn low budget boards are totaly trash wish i had go for z97

When it stock 3.2 Bios show 3200 when it 3.8 bios show 3212 this what i meant

 

[Ed1]

Can i fix it somehow?

I don't know , first post your exact MB and CPU ,

On XTU, that lets you OC bypassing bios to some extent , the bios still needs to be compliant .
Try it worst can happen it doesn't let you OC, then just uninstall it .

 

[Ketchup]

If you are overclocking using Windows software, the overclock will only occur when that software is running.

Windows System Information always shows the stock speed for your processor.

 

[Papastache]

I don't know , first post your exact MB and CPU ,

On XTU, that lets you OC bypassing bios to some extent , the bios still needs to be compliant .
Try it worst can happen it doesn't let you OC, then just uninstall it .

g3258 asus h81m-plus
I have never used that XTU and heard BIOS OC is the best

 

[Papastache]

I don't know , first post your exact MB and CPU ,

On XTU, that lets you OC bypassing bios to some extent , the bios still needs to be compliant .
Try it worst can happen it doesn't let you OC, then just uninstall it .

Well i have tried this XTU OC doesnt work here, i cant even change multiplier.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

The intel tool only works for Z chipset boards I think, not H81.

Just use the bios overclock method.

 

[Papastache]

Well, well atm im clocked to 4.4GHZ, BIOS and Windows doesnt read my currently CPU frequency, windows still shows stock and main BIOS page shows 3216mhz, i still cant figure out why BIOS shows faulty frequency. But 3rd programs like cpuz and speccy shows it correctly.Defect motherboard? what u say?

 

[Ed1]

Well, well atm im clocked to 4.4GHZ, BIOS and Windows doesnt read my currently CPU frequency, windows still shows stock and main BIOS page shows 3216mhz, i still cant figure out why BIOS shows faulty frequency. But 3rd programs like cpuz and speccy shows it correctly.Defect motherboard? what u say?

If CPU-Z, HW64 , or any other 3rd party hardware monitor shows correct 4.4ghz, that is your speed .
you can't go by windows performance says .

 

[Flapdrol1337]

Well, well atm im clocked to 4.4GHZ, BIOS and Windows doesnt read my currently CPU frequency, windows still shows stock and main BIOS page shows 3216mhz, i still cant figure out why BIOS shows faulty frequency. But 3rd programs like cpuz and speccy shows it correctly.Defect motherboard? what u say?

It's probably because of non Z overclocking, I have a H81 board too and it also says 3.2 under system, even though it's running at 4.6.

But I don't care because it's not important. It performs like a 4.6 chip.

 

[Papastache]

It's probably because of non Z overclocking, I have a H81 board too and it also says 3.2 under system, even though it's running at 4.6.

But I don't care because it's not important. It performs like a 4.6 chip.

Well have done some tuning in bios and got 4.5GHZ 1.250V stressed for 1 hour max temp 74C core 1 and 67C core 2.
Is it normal thing 7C difference?

 

[Ed1]

Well have done some tuning in bios and got 4.5GHZ 1.250V stressed for 1 hour max temp 74C core 1 and 67C core 2.
Is it normal thing 7C difference?

cores will run different temps, sometimes 8-10c .
one reason you don't see oc speed correct is cause your OC turbo boost speeds ,so CPU is still running the same until turbo kicks in .

 

[VirtualLarry]

one reason you don't see oc speed correct is cause your OC turbo boost speeds ,so CPU is still running the same until turbo kicks in .

I don't think that's true with the G3258, because it doesn't even have Turbo.

 

[Papastache]

cores will run different temps, sometimes 8-10c .
one reason you don't see oc speed correct is cause your OC turbo boost speeds ,so CPU is still running the same until turbo kicks in .

Thanks for info, I thought i havent applied thermal paste correctly

 

[Flapdrol1337]

I also have a 7 degree difference between cores, not sure how common it is.

 

[Ed1]

I don't think that's true with the G3258, because it doesn't even have Turbo.

Yes, you are right it doesn't support turbo boost .

 

[VirtualLarry]

I also have a 7 degree difference between cores, not sure how common it is.

Yeah, my primary rig with a G3258 is the same way. No biggie.