Windows 7 PLUS Windows 2000 Pro?

[JackBN]

I have an i7-2600K system with Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.

I need Windows 2000 Pro, SP4, for old software. I have over ten thousand hours invested in a 1991 DOS database still in use. There is no acceptable way to migrate to a newer program -- re-entering the data would take thousands of hours.

I have tried unsuccessfully to run my old software under XP mode in Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit.

I doubt dual boot will work, because new motherboards do not have drivers for W2000.

With the XP OS on an i7-860 system, my old software runs fine in Virtual PC 2007. I've tried unsuccessfully to install Virtual PC (several variations) on my Windows 7 system.

Is there a version of Virtual PC that will work with W7 Home Premium? If not, will Windows 2000 run in a Virtual PC with W7 Pro or W7 Ultimate?

 

[JackMDS]

I am not sure about the x64 and how it behaves with x32 VPCs.

On x32 you can install Win 2000 on the engine that is used for XP-Mode.

Actually the XP-Mode is a VPC that is sitting VPC 2007 that was upgarded and adapted to Win 7.

YMMV, but you might be able to use the VHD from the VPC 2007 installation.

Find this file C: \Windows\System32\VPCWizard.exe

Double click on it and a wizard will open that will let you install Virtual computer of anything that can install on VPC 2007.

This is a folder that I created myself, the pic. shows the target file of each Icon.

 

[JackBN]

Thanks for your reply.

The file you list is not in my 64-bit Home Premium folder:
C: \Windows\System32\VPCWizard.exe

Perhaps it's only in Pro and/or Ultimate.

I checked Folder Options, and Show Hidden Files is selected.

 

[imagoon]

Thanks for your reply.

The file you list is not in my 64-bit Home Premium folder:
C: \Windows\System32\VPCWizard.exe

Perhaps it's only in Pro and/or Ultimate.

You need to download and install VPC. XP mode is just a specialized VM, you still need Virtual PC to use XP-mode (or any other VPC VM's).

 

[ViRGE]

You need to download and install VPC. XP mode is just a specialized VM, you still need Virtual PC to use XP-mode (or any other VPC VM's).

XP Mode/VPC is not available for Win7 Home Premium. A virtual machine is the right idea, but he needs to use another product such as Virtaul Box or VMWare Workstation.

 

[VirtualLarry]

XP Mode/VPC is not available for Win7 Home Premium. A virtual machine is the right idea, but he needs to use another product such as Virtaul Box or VMWare Workstation.

VPC is available for Home Premium. It just doesn't grant you the right to use the pre-configured "XP Mode" virtual machine image. You have to provide your own OS license and install it into a VHD yourself. But VPC WILL install, I've done it.

 

[biostud]

dosbox

 

[Steltek]

I have an i7-2600K system with Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.

I need Windows 2000 Pro, SP4, for old software. I have over ten thousand hours invested in a 1991 DOS database still in use. There is no acceptable way to migrate to a newer program -- re-entering the data would take thousands of hours.

I have tried unsuccessfully to run my old software under XP mode in Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit.

I doubt dual boot will work, because new motherboards do not have drivers for W2000.

With the XP OS on an i7-860 system, my old software runs fine in Virtual PC 2007. I've tried unsuccessfully to install Virtual PC (several variations) on my Windows 7 system.

Is there a version of Virtual PC that will work with W7 Home Premium? If not, will Windows 2000 run in a Virtual PC with W7 Pro or W7 Ultimate?

Have you tried VMware Player? It is ridiculously easy to use, and has the same virtual machine wizards included in the paid VMware Workstation application. Plus, the price (free) is most definitely right....

Download and install Player, create a Win2000 virtual machine using the wizards, and then install Win2000 in the VM. Install your security updates and application(s) and you'll be good to go in no time at all.

 

[JackBN]

VPC is available for Home Premium. It just doesn't grant you the right to use the pre-configured "XP Mode" virtual machine image. You have to provide your own OS license and install it into a VHD yourself. But VPC WILL install, I've done it.

Please give me the full identification of the version you mean, and direct me to the correct download page.
I've tried several versions already, all of which refused to install on W7 Home Premium 64-bit.

 

[JackBN]

Have you tried VMware Player? It is ridiculously easy to use, and has the same virtual machine wizards included in the paid VMware Workstation application. Plus, the price (free) is most definitely right....

Download and install Player, create a Win2000 virtual machine using the wizards, and then install Win2000 in the VM. Install your security updates and application(s) and you'll be good to go in no time at all.

Thanks. I prefer Virtual PC if it will work, simply because I'm familiar with it.
If I can't make it work, I shall certainly try VMware Player.

 

[lxskllr]

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx

 

[JackBN]

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx

When I go to that link, I am at "Download Widows XP Mode with VIrtual PC." I changed to "Don't need XP Mode and want VPC only? Download Windows Virtual PC without Windows XP Mode".

But no matter what I do next, I get the message:
"You are not eligible to download Windows XP Mode. You must have Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, or Ultimate to run Windows XP Mode."

Even though I explicitly deselected XP Mode. I'm baffled.

 

[lxskllr]

I dunno. I'd download it for you, and reupload it, but I don't think I'd pass WGA. I'm on Ubuntu :^D

Use IE to get to the page if you aren't already using it, and enable all cookies. MS sites seem to work better with IE.

 

[hennessy1]

http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=24439

Download the appropriate version for your OS either 32 or 64-bit.

 

[Aluvus]

I need Windows 2000 Pro, SP4, for old software. I have over ten thousand hours invested in a 1991 DOS database still in use. There is no acceptable way to migrate to a newer program -- re-entering the data would take thousands of hours.

This is a bit of a tangent, but migrating to a different database doesn't necessarily mean manually re-entering all of the data. Particularly if the data is stored in a format that is at all common. It may still be a fair bit of effort, but so is keeping the flame of a 20 year old program alive.

 

[Steltek]

When I go to that link, I am at "Download Widows XP Mode with VIrtual PC." I changed to "Don't need XP Mode and want VPC only? Download Windows Virtual PC without Windows XP Mode".

But no matter what I do next, I get the message:
"You are not eligible to download Windows XP Mode. You must have Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, or Ultimate to run Windows XP Mode."

Even though I explicitly deselected XP Mode. I'm baffled.

Try downloading from an Inprivate web session or deleting the Microsoft web cookies.

 

[JackBN]

Had trouble getting Microsoft VirtualPC, so I tried VMware Player. Download and installation with Windows 2000 was a breeze.

And my prehistoric DOS software works great. This is a 1991 program, Roots3, the best genealogy program of the era. The company folded long ago, when it failed to come up with a popular Windows product.

I have tried several later Windows programs for genealogy. None is nearly as good for my purposes, and all require a year plus to complete the details of the data migration. I have written two 700-page books with this software. It exports the final book product in RTT (rich text tabulated) format, which I then prettied up in Word. The final books look as professional as anything you will find at Amazon.

I have found how to access a USB flash drive. Have not yet found how to access the "real" computer C: drive. I think I set it up, but it does not appear in My Computer/Explorer. I have little doubt it will get sorted out.

Thanks guys.

 

[balsa model]

Have not yet found how to access the "real" computer C: drive. I think I set it up, but it does not appear in My Computer/Explorer. I have little doubt it will get sorted out.

If you do sort it out, please come back and post. I'm curious about any gotchas.
At work, I have to use VMWare to run some FreeBSD s/w. Setting up the back and forth between the file systems proved to be the complicated part. I got lost trying to figure out some sort of public/private key authorization system. I ended up using WinSCP but someone else did the configuration work. It has an easy drag-n-drop interface but no hooks for batch file / script use. I wish it did, so that I could automate some of the workflow.

I'm thinking of doing the same as you, again with Win 2k. Since I can't bring myself to trust Win 2k security (however patched), I would like to have a good control over who has what rights over which filesystem. Actually having to go via USB stick and no net access would suit my paranoia the best :\

 

[debian0001]

Had trouble getting Microsoft VirtualPC, so I tried VMware Player. Download and installation with Windows 2000 was a breeze.

And my prehistoric DOS software works great. This is a 1991 program, Roots3, the best genealogy program of the era. The company folded long ago, when it failed to come up with a popular Windows product.

I have tried several later Windows programs for genealogy. None is nearly as good for my purposes, and all require a year plus to complete the details of the data migration. I have written two 700-page books with this software. It exports the final book product in RTT (rich text tabulated) format, which I then prettied up in Word. The final books look as professional as anything you will find at Amazon.

I have found how to access a USB flash drive. Have not yet found how to access the "real" computer C: drive. I think I set it up, but it does not appear in My Computer/Explorer. I have little doubt it will get sorted out.

Thanks guys.

You can setup a Windows SMB share on either side. Just make sure to have your Windows 2000 box have a bridged IP and not NAT so it appears on the network as another device.

 

[Scott_375]

need reliable computer that runs win 2000 pro sp4.....preferably an I3, I5 or I7. It runs a waste fired boiler. The software will not upgrade to xp

 

[hennessy1]

Your best bet is to run it as a VM I would think and then keep backups of the vm files and do snapshots and keep those so that if the win2k vm goes down you can restore or even if the physical machine does you can restore to a different machine and keep it going.

 

[Scott_375]

I'll try that, I'm not a guru at computers....I was reading on this forum that there were still some new motherboards that would work, and that the drivers could be found....thank you

 

[Scott_375]

MSI P55 CD53 this is one of them