Windows 7 is basically Vista renamed

[VashHT]

I love Windows 7 but really it's just a fully patched Vista. Now Windows XP performs games better than Windows 7 and Vista put together lol 😛

Kind of sad people still think this, I cringe at the thought of gaming in XP over 7, no way I would want to boot back into XP even if it did give me a couple more fps (which it doesn't anymore). I did a lot of my own personal testing between XP and Vista when I was first using it, and at that time (during Vista's beta/RTM stage) I would get a few more fps in some games, but not so many that I had to turn down settings in Vista. So i was playing at the same settings, and the only way I could notice the fps difference was if I was using something to display it; at that point I decided XP really wasn't worth booting into for me anymore.

 

[Mem]

I love Windows 7 but really it's just a fully patched Vista. Now Windows XP performs games better than Windows 7 and Vista put together lol 😛

Try reading real modern reviews and not FUD,good example of modern game benchmarks would be something like this at Anandtech http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3666&p=14 .

As you can see in the above benchmarks Vista and Win7 do better then XP.

Bottomline gaming wise you are better off going for Vista or Win7 then XP which is restricted to DX9.0c and has no real future gaming wise.

 

[VinDSL]

Bottomline gaming wise you are better off going for Vista or Win7 then XP which is restricted to DX9.0c and has no real future gaming wise.

I don't consider myself a "gamer" (I only play a few online flash games: My Brute, FarmVille, Cafe World) however, I'm a prolific reader, and...

From what I've read, gaming on PCs (et al) has "no real future." Development is focusing on game consoles these days.

Just saying... :sneaky:

 

[dguy6789]

PC gaming is losing exclusives, but that's about it as far as dying goes. It is getting smaller but it will never go away completely. There will still be tons and tons of games that come out for multiple platforms that will include the PC for a long time to come.

 

[dguy6789]

PC gaming is losing exclusives, but that's about it as far as dying goes. It is getting smaller but it will never go away completely. There will still be tons and tons of games that come out for multiple platforms that will include the PC for a long time to come.

 

[dguy6789]

PC gaming is losing exclusives, but that's about it as far as dying goes. It is getting smaller but it will never go away completely. There will be plenty of games that come out for multiple platforms including PC for a long time to come.

 

[dguy6789]

PC gaming is losing exclusives, but that's about it as far as dying goes. It is getting smaller but it will never go away completely. There will be plenty of games that come out for multiple platforms including PC for a long time to come.

 

[Mem]

I don't consider myself a "gamer" (I only play a few online flash games: My Brute, FarmVille, Cafe World) however, I'm a prolific reader, and...

From what I've read, gaming on PCs (et al) has "no real future." Development is focusing on game consoles these days.

Just saying... :sneaky:

Still plenty of good PC games coming out,PC gaming is not dying just yet,besides with DX11 games coming out down the road ,new video cards etc....Nvidia/ATi have both done a lot of good hardware support for the PC gaming sector ,even Microsoft won't let it die not matter what you hear about console market getting better.

 

[NaOH]

Had both from day one. Vista wasn't so smooth when it first came out but after the first service pack and appropriate nvidia drivers, it was pretty damn smooth.

Windows 7 is basically a retooled, repackaged version of Vista. Yes, it's snappier on day one, and I didn't have to install ANY drivers. BUT, I'm not suprised considering what they based 90% of it on. Loving the taskbar though.

 

[KeypoX]

windows 7 is basically ms dos renamed. See i can do it too.

 

[Zebo]

WINDOWS 7 is shit just like vista was/is a steaming pile of shit. To much resources. To slow. To many annoyances. To hard to manage PC and no frekken file menu.....wtf. Obviously both were designed by a committee of retarded monkeys. Have at it - I still use 2000 and play everything.

 

[theevilsharpie]

WINDOWS 7 is shit just like vista was/is a steaming pile of shit. To much resources. To slow. To many annoyances. To hard to manage PC and no frekken file menu.....wtf. Obviously both were designed by a committee of retarded monkeys. Have at it - I still use 2000 and play everything.

Wow, Windows 2000? I thought Luddites had all upgraded to XP x64 edition by now :awe:

 

[Zebo]

Wow, Windows 2000? I thought Luddites had all upgraded to XP x64 edition by now :awe:

I've tried them all. I get free software.... anything I want from work and they suck including teletubbies XP. If you can tell me how to get rid of these annoying balloons:
http://i34.tinypic.com/244cn84.jpg
And This annoying blank space:

http://i35.tinypic.com/1zpm7x2.jpg

I'll "upgrade" to 7 in spite of using an order of magnitude more memory (base10) since memory is cheap and I have 4 GB. Speed in slower but all I use a PC for is games nowadays.


Oh - I forgot about the non tree in explorer making things slower to find and delineate and the slower load times despite so-called precache prefetch prewhatthefuckevergimmick..... launching programs, booting and shutting down slower on all hardware...from i7 to original athlon I've tried. Don't believe the hype. - if you have 2k you're good XP tweaked is okay too but this new shit is a DOG.

 

[delco007]

Looks like nobody understands the difference between the Servicing Stack of Vista and 7. Some people will always have hard luck with computers and keep on crying .....

Guru

 

[VinDSL]

WINDOWS 7 is shit just like vista was/is a steaming pile of shit. To much resources. To slow. To many annoyances. To hard to manage PC and no frekken file menu.....wtf. Obviously both were designed by a committee of retarded monkeys. Have at it - I still use 2000 and play everything.

LoL! Well put! 😀

I'll have to admit...

The majority of my Windows boxes are still running W2K Pro.

 

[dguy6789]

You can't really claim to be knowledgeable about Windows if you say Windows 7 is crap. "Vista sucks" or "Windows 7 sucks" has always just been a synonym for saying "I don't know how to use a computer"

 

[Red Squirrel]

I can confirm 7 runs faster then vista, but not as fast as XP. But yeah it's pretty much the same think they just cleaned up their bloated code a bit.

Vista kills my VM server (core 2 quad, 8GB of ram, raid 5). 7 actually runs and is barely noticable. XP is like a drop in the bucket.

I see no reason to upgrade my workstation though. If I want to totally change my whole OS and learn new programs, may as well switch to Linux.

 

[jjmIII]

You can't really claim to be knowledgeable about Windows if you say Windows 7 is crap. "Vista sucks" or "Windows 7 sucks" has always just been a synonym for saying "I don't know how to use a computer"

this 😀

 

[Blazer]

while 7 is a very nice addition to the MS line-up, if one owns vista already the 7 inprovements donot make it feasable, for me anyway, vista does just as good a job, maybe a little more eye candy but i dont need all that candy, just stable.

 

[mmntech]

Windows Vista to me always seemed like XP with a coat of paint. A lot of the new features only offered dubious improvements, take DX10 for example.

Vista was a bad OS at launch, you can't deny that fact. It took a while to clear out all the bugs and driver issues. Yes, XP was the same but you have to remember it was a shift to a whole different architecture. That's expected.

I think the problem with Vista was that MS was in a rush to get something out and failed to work together with major hardware companies to rewrite their drivers. You can scream "it wasn't Microsoft's fault" all you want. However, it would have made more sense to just delay the release and start pushing devs harder. The marketing disaster that followed in the first few months probably cost them more than a delay ever would.

Windows 7 is essentially Vista Part Deux. If you strip it down to the kernel, it's classified as NT 6.1, where as Vista is 6.0. It's certainly better than Vista, more user friendly and just plain usable. I'm a Mac guy but I have to say it is the best Windows yet. I'm loving the two up snaps, which is something so simple but a long time coming.

 

[Maximilian]

Windows 7 is essentially Vista Part Deux. If you strip it down to the kernel, it's classified as NT 6.1, where as Vista is 6.0. It's certainly better than Vista, more user friendly and just plain usable. I'm a Mac guy but I have to say it is the best Windows yet. I'm loving the two up snaps, which is something so simple but a long time coming.

Yeah 7 is awesome, the only thing that sucks is they took out windows dreamscene. It never worked properly in vista and the 2 or 3 content packs for it never actually did anything, i never saw any new dreamscene movies or any differences at all, more like lack of content pack... They shouldve fixed it though rather than remove it although im pretty sure it can be enabled in 7 via some registry fiddling i dont really want to do that.

Apart from that yeah its like what windows XP was to windows 2000 in a way, more refined.

 

[VinDSL]

You can't really claim to be knowledgeable about Windows if you say Windows 7 is crap.[...]

I would suggest...

The antithesis rings true as well, such as :

Yeah 7 is awesome[...]

 

[Nothinman]

windows 7 is basically ms dos renamed. See i can do it too.

Except there's absolutely zero truth to your statement. Win7 is the latest of the NT line which shares no history with DOS.

Vista was a bad OS at launch, you can't deny that fact. It took a while to clear out all the bugs and driver issues. Yes, XP was the same but you have to remember it was a shift to a whole different architecture. That's expected.

Except neither the XP or Vista releases were in any way an architecture shift. XP was just a facelift on Win2K which was a facelift on NT4 which was largely NT 3.51 with the Win95-looking UI. There were probably more changes between XP and Vista, but the low level stuff is still very largely the same. It's called evolution and it's a good thing.

Vista kills my VM server (core 2 quad, 8GB of ram, raid 5). 7 actually runs and is barely noticable. XP is like a drop in the bucket.

And how long did you let the Vista VM run before screaming "Vista sucks!" and deleting it? It's no secret that Vista is very agressive with I/O out of the box because of indexing and such but it does settle down after a bit.

 

[thedosbox]

LOL @ the comparison with W2K. While I miss the classic UI's no-nonsense style, I'm glad for the W7 taskbar, program-specific jumplists and integrated search. If all you do is play games, I can understand how you might think those features are worthless.

 

[Red Squirrel]

And how long did you let the Vista VM run before screaming "Vista sucks!" and deleting it? It's no secret that Vista is very agressive with I/O out of the box because of indexing and such but it does settle down after a bit.

Actually about a day. I played with it for an hour and could not believe how slow it was (win2k3 reboots in 30 secs on this machine) and it was actually frustrating as they totally changed everything and the simplest tasks such as setting a static IP became much harder (never actually figured it out without using google). Then I actually forgot to turn it off.

Later on I was doing something else and wondering why my server was so bloody slow then realized I forgot to shut off the vista vm. I shut it off and everything was more responsive again. The issue is Disk IO. Vista seems to thrash like crazy. I remember bringing up the task manager and it looked like somebody put a lie detector on the Iraq Information Minister.