Windows 7 and Adobe Flash 64 bit

[JPS35]

How could Adobe not be prepared for this? Website indicates they are finishing with 10.1 THEN will work on 64 bit?

 

[masteryoda34]

Yep, they are dragging their feet.

 

[cmdrdredd]

They could have had 64bit flash for Vista as well, but you know...they didn't.

 

[MrChad]

What advantages does a 64-bit browser offer over a 32-bit one? I don't think I've ever hit the 2 GB / process limit while browsing the web. The 32-bit browsers run just fine on 64-bit Windows.

 

[mmntech]

Flash is probably Adobe's most widely used product, but also the most neglected. Oddly enough the Flash creator in CS4 is 64-bit AFAIK.

Just thank god it's not as neglected as the OS X version, or [shudders] Flash for Linux.

 

[SimMike2]

I had a heckuva time installing Adobe Flash player with 64bit Win7 and Firefox. I finally figured out how to add "www.adobe.com" to the trusted websites and it worked.

I went to Firefox menu Tools/Security/Exceptions and added the above address.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: MrChad
What advantages does a 64-bit browser offer over a 32-bit one? I don't think I've ever hit the 2 GB / process limit while browsing the web. The 32-bit browsers run just fine on 64-bit Windows.

If it's anything like Safari for the Mac, the difference would be pretty substantial.

 

[Boo Boo]

its stable. and fast, but thats cause it doesn't display bloated flash

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MrChad
What advantages does a 64-bit browser offer over a 32-bit one? I don't think I've ever hit the 2 GB / process limit while browsing the web. The 32-bit browsers run just fine on 64-bit Windows.

If it's anything like Safari for the Mac, the difference would be pretty substantial.

Care to elaborate?

 

[Nothinman]

How could Adobe not be prepared for this? Website indicates they are finishing with 10.1 THEN will work on 64 bit?

And to add even more salt to the wound they've had a 64-bit version for Linux and OS X for a while now. =)

 

[adlep]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MrChad
What advantages does a 64-bit browser offer over a 32-bit one? I don't think I've ever hit the 2 GB / process limit while browsing the web. The 32-bit browsers run just fine on 64-bit Windows.

If it's anything like Safari for the Mac, the difference would be pretty substantial.

Care to elaborate?

To put it simply, the 64-bit IE is fast as hell compared to the 32-bit version - of course most of my users can't use it because of lack of flash support though...

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

How could Adobe not be prepared for this? Website indicates they are finishing with 10.1 THEN will work on 64 bit?

And to add even more salt to the wound they've had a 64-bit version for Linux and OS X for a while now. =)

That's okay... there is no 64 bit Photoshop for OS X. But I really wish Windows 7 is the last Microsoft OS that comes in 32 bit.... oh and while I am at it Cisco needs to get off their butts and release a 64 bit client for their VPN products.

 

[JACKDRUID]

64-bit ie is tons faster than 32bit ie, everything is faster... screen draw, page loading, scripting execution etc

however, lack of flash support makes it unusable.

 

[Nothinman]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: Nothinman

How could Adobe not be prepared for this? Website indicates they are finishing with 10.1 THEN will work on 64 bit?

And to add even more salt to the wound they've had a 64-bit version for Linux and OS X for a while now. =)

That's okay... there is no 64 bit Photoshop for OS X. But I really wish Windows 7 is the last Microsoft OS that comes in 32 bit.... oh and while I am at it Cisco needs to get off their butts and release a 64 bit client for their VPN products.

I'm pretty sure Cisco's told 64-bit users to f' off and get their admins to setup an SSL VPN for them. I'm a little disappointed myself, but even more disappointed that there's no good, free 64-bit IPSec VPN clients for Windows since it's an open standard. Luckily for me there's been 64-bit IPSec clients forever Linux so I'm not worried. =)

 

[Cr0nJ0b]

seriously guys you need to lay off Adobe! There is no way they could have expected Microsoft to release a new operating system this year. I mean, if MS had given them some notice, then yeah, maybe they could have prepared some type of support for the new version of windows...but then MS just dropped it on the market with no notice in October..of all things...

and who would have expected that a anyone would really even be using the OS by now.

give poor adobe a break.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

How could Adobe not be prepared for this? Website indicates they are finishing with 10.1 THEN will work on 64 bit?

And to add even more salt to the wound they've had a 64-bit version for Linux and OS X for a while now. =)

Actually it's just Linux. OS X is still 32-bit only. 64-bit Safari uses IPC to run a 32-bit copy of Safari with Flash piped through.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Cr0nJ0b
seriously guys you need to lay off Adobe! There is no way they could have expected Microsoft to release a new operating system this year. I mean, if MS had given them some notice, then yeah, maybe they could have prepared some type of support for the new version of windows...but then MS just dropped it on the market with no notice in October..of all things...

and who would have expected that a anyone would really even be using the OS by now.

give poor adobe a break.

You, sir, owe me a new meter.

 

[JPS35]

Originally posted by: Cr0nJ0b
seriously guys you need to lay off Adobe! There is no way they could have expected Microsoft to release a new operating system this year. I mean, if MS had given them some notice, then yeah, maybe they could have prepared some type of support for the new version of windows...but then MS just dropped it on the market with no notice in October..of all things...

and who would have expected that a anyone would really even be using the OS by now.

give poor adobe a break.

Seriously? How could it possibly be a disadvantage to Adobe to have this ready to go whenever Windows 7 was released. Was IE 8 going to change that much? I have drivers and patches for every other piece of software and hardware because every other company was ready to go with it when it happened. At the same time, with the release of Windows 7 beta over the last SEVERAL months, they could have been prepared.

It comes down to crappy planning and customer support.

 

[MBrown]

Originally posted by: MrChad
What advantages does a 64-bit browser offer over a 32-bit one? I don't think I've ever hit the 2 GB / process limit while browsing the web. The 32-bit browsers run just fine on 64-bit Windows.

Aren't 64bit browsers more secure than 32bit ones?

 

[vtfanmv5]

Originally posted by: JPS35

Originally posted by: Cr0nJ0b
seriously guys you need to lay off Adobe! There is no way they could have expected Microsoft to release a new operating system this year. I mean, if MS had given them some notice, then yeah, maybe they could have prepared some type of support for the new version of windows...but then MS just dropped it on the market with no notice in October..of all things...

and who would have expected that a anyone would really even be using the OS by now.

give poor adobe a break.

Seriously? How could it possibly be a disadvantage to Adobe to have this ready to go whenever Windows 7 was released. Was IE 8 going to change that much? I have drivers and patches for every other piece of software and hardware because every other company was ready to go with it when it happened. At the same time, with the release of Windows 7 beta over the last SEVERAL months, they could have been prepared.

It comes down to crappy planning and customer support.

That was the best sarcasm fail I've seen in awhile.

 

[sportage]

MS will probably drop 32bit. Maybe sooner than we think.
If you buy a new pc from bestbuy or even wally world, it probably comes with a 64bit
os. Thats all they are putting on new pc's. And thats good.
The 3rd party software venders have had more than plenty of time to ready for 64 bit and win7.
I believe thats why MS gave away the win7 os beta to like...everyone.
So that users could find software not compatible, and get on their case to get with it.

 

[Qbah]

Seriously? How could it possibly be a disadvantage to Adobe to have this ready to go whenever Windows 7 was released. Was IE 8 going to change that much? I have drivers and patches for every other piece of software and hardware because every other company was ready to go with it when it happened. At the same time, with the release of Windows 7 beta over the last SEVERAL months, they could have been prepared.

It comes down to crappy planning and customer support.

Best sarcasm fail ever

We had Vista 64bit for so long now. Adobe just plainly sucks.

 

[Fox5]

To put it simply, the 64-bit IE is fast as hell compared to the 32-bit version - of course most of my users can't use it because of lack of flash support though...

Heh, ever think it might be fast as hell because of the lack of flash support?

BTW, usually graphical stuff (such as flash) gets huge benefits from going 64 bit. However, flash on linux only gained about a 10% performance boost, which is about the average performance boost for a program going 64 bit on linux. (adobe may have just done the simplest conversion possible without really taking advantage of 64 bit)
And even with that 10%, it's still far below the performance of windows. I think it beats out mac though. Still, flash is so bad on linux that 4 windows open with flash kills performance even if they're not playing anything (chrome can squeeze in a few more, but it seems to disable plugins inactive windows), and even a single flash game can drag a high end system to its knees.

That 10% performance boost is probably just coming from SSE2 support being enabled by default under x64...