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Windows 2003 Server planning

Originally posted by: jliechty
Anyone who is still running NT4 is... um... behind the times. 😉
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Why spend money of bugs/features that you don't need, when what you have do every thing that you want?
It is like buying a Porsche to commute in traffics, when any thing that have 4 wheels & working breaks would go just as fast.
Just look at what happen to the dot com, when everyone must have what the Jones have....it only works until the bottom fall out.

 
Anyone who is still running NT4 is... um... behind the times.
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Behind the times maybe, but in large enterprises with hundreds of servers and heterogeneous environments, it takes forever and a day to plan upgrades, let alone implement them.
 
Originally posted by: lowtech
Why spend money of bugs/features that you don't need, when what you have do every thing that you want? It is like buying a Porsche to commute in traffics, when any thing that have 4 wheels & working breaks would go just as fast. Just look at what happen to the dot com, when everyone must have what the Jones have....it only works until the bottom fall out.
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It's not always about going fast or keeping up with the Jones' Because after a while, driving that old trusty 83 Civic just becomes a pain. You drive to work and can't enjoy the Bose stereo in your Porsche while you're stopped in traffic. Or you look over and see that punk in a beemer looking at you like, "what's up with that, civic man?" "don't you work?" "what do you want out of life?" Having good stuff doesn't mean you have to put a 2nd mortgage on the farm. After a while the sensibility of being sensible just doesn't cut it anymore and you can finally see the benefit of spending the money on a modern OS that has the good and yes, even the bad benefits of being up to date...So when windows 2025 comes out, will you have thrown out your NT4 by then?
 
On the corporate level, it doesn't matter because we only use our computers for very specific tasks, usually software custom written that cost us thousands or even millions to have done. And if we're going to compare vehicles, it's more appropriate to compare to taxis, 18 wheelers, or other commercial vehicles. They run those things until they fall apart because it makes no sense to spend money on something new every few years.

Remember that prior to the Y2k situation, many companies were still running on systems from the 70s.

It's not always about going fast or keeping up with the Jones' Because after a while, driving that old trusty 83 Civic just becomes a pain. You drive to work and can't enjoy the Bose stereo in your Porsche while you're stopped in traffic. Or you look over and see that punk in a beemer looking at you like, "what's up with that, civic man?" "don't you work?" "what do you want out of life?" Having good stuff doesn't mean you have to put a 2nd mortgage on the farm. After a while the sensibility of being sensible just doesn't cut it anymore and you can finally see the benefit of spending the money on a modern OS that has the good and yes, even the bad benefits of being up to date...So when windows 2025 comes out, will you have thrown out your NT4 by then?
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Originally posted by: jliechty
Anyone who is still running NT4 is... um... behind the times. 😉
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NT 4 server is still a great server to operate for business-specific needs. Hell it only took them 6 service packs and tonnes of hotfixes later to make it viable. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Thor86
Originally posted by: jliechty
Anyone who is still running NT4 is... um... behind the times. 😉
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NT 4 server is still a great server to operate for business-specific needs. Hell it only took them 6 service packs and tonnes of hotfixes later to make it viable. 🙂
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Sorry, I wasn't thinking when I made that statement. If it runs the software, and has stable drivers for your software, by all means, use it! Although NT4 doesn't have the greatest UI (some improvements have been made in Win2k and WinXP), and isn't necessarily the best OS for some desktops and laptops (NT4's power management, or lack thereof, comes to mind), that doesn't make it bad also for servers. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: jliechty
Originally posted by: Thor86
Originally posted by: jliechty
Anyone who is still running NT4 is... um... behind the times. 😉
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NT 4 server is still a great server to operate for business-specific needs. Hell it only took them 6 service packs and tonnes of hotfixes later to make it viable. 🙂
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Sorry, I wasn't thinking when I made that statement. If it runs the software, and has stable drivers for your software, by all means, use it! Although NT4 doesn't have the greatest UI (some improvements have been made in Win2k and WinXP), and isn't necessarily the best OS for some desktops and laptops (NT4's power management, or lack thereof, comes to mind), that doesn't make it bad also for servers. 🙂
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The majority of the users may prefer GUI, but for me I still prefer CLI specially on a server.
 
Originally posted by: lowtech
The majority of the users may prefer GUI, but for me I still prefer CLI specially on a server.
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Hopefully I won't come across as being nitpicky, but I never said that I thought that NT was the best for servers. I tend to prefer a UNIX based OS for my serving applications. 🙂
 
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