Question Windows 11 hobbling Ryzen 7000 performance

[GunsMadeAmericaFree]

It looks like Windows 11 is hobbling Ryzen 7000 gaming performance currently....
for more details, read more at PcGamer:

Hobbled Ryzen 7000

 

[moinmoin]

Doesn't the rendering part require professional graphics cards etc.? I would think that at least at the AAA studios, they would want their developers working with ECC RAM to prevent bit errors from ruining something they spent a lot of time working on.

Maybe for static graphics like for textures and pre-rendered movies. CPU optimizations would happen in programming, for which porting, optimization and especially testing I'd expect to happen more on the client systems in question, not on workstation and server systems.

 

[GunsMadeAmericaFree]

>>developers working with ECC RAM to prevent bit errors

My motherboard isn't a server motherboard, but it will work with ECC ram. That's one of the reasons why I bought it. Has that become more common with time?

 

[igor_kavinski]

My motherboard isn't a server motherboard, but it will work with ECC ram. That's one of the reasons why I bought it. Has that become more common with time?

I don't think so. What's your motherboard model? I think ASROCK supports ECC on their AMD consumer motherboards. There's also just running ECC RAM and actually using the ECC functionality. I think there's some command line you can run to verify if ECC functionality is actually turned on in Windows.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Maybe for static graphics like for textures and pre-rendered movies. CPU optimizations would happen in programming, for which porting, optimization and especially testing I'd expect to happen more on the client systems in question, not on workstation and server systems.

@HurleyBird

What do you think? Do game studios prefer workstations or just normal souped-up PCs for development?

 

[Harry_Wild]

It is probably the AM5 motherboard bios that causing the lackadaisical performance! Remember, not even 30 day yet from release! You guys who own it are the Beta testers! Updated bios will probably fix things!

 

[Markfw]

It is probably the AM5 motherboard bios that causing the lackadaisical performance! Remember, not even 30 day yet from release! You guys who own it are the Beta testers! Updated bios will probably fix things!

works fine in win 10 and linux. I have one of each running. Its win 11 that is beta.

 

[GunsMadeAmericaFree]

I don't think so. What's your motherboard model? I think ASROCK supports ECC on their AMD consumer motherboards. There's also just running ECC RAM and actually using the ECC functionality. I think there's some command line you can run to verify if ECC functionality is actually turned on in Windows.

It's an MSI. I remember reading on the box that it would work with ECC RAM, but that it would disable the ECC functionality to do so. There was a long discussion on it here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/6ars08

And it sounds like the ECC function was disabled in order for the board to use the RAM.

 

[TheELF]

Aren’t the majority of new AAA games being developed primarily for Zen 2?

No, the majority is still being developed primarily for jaguar...
Except for spider man I doubt there is any other game that was made specifically for the ps5. (or the new xbox)

 

[Thibsie]

It's an MSI. I remember reading on the box that it would work with ECC RAM, but that it would disable the ECC functionality to do so. There was a long discussion on it here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/6ars08

And it sounds like the ECC function was disabled in order for the board to use the RAM.

Ok, so In the end, there was no point at all to use this ECC ram, right ?

 

[Panino Manino]

No, the majority is still being developed primarily for jaguar...
Except for spider man I doubt there is any other game that was made specifically for the ps5. (or the new xbox)

Spider Man was NOT made SPECIALLY for the PS5.
And the "true" next gen games are relying as much on the dedicated IO hardware than on the new CPUs.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

No, the majority is still being developed primarily for jaguar...
Except for spider man I doubt there is any other game that was made specifically for the ps5. (or the new xbox)

Gorham Knights is PS5 and Xbox series only. And I have heard talk that upcoming first party Playstation games won't support PS4 much longer, if at all.

Spider Man was NOT made SPECIALLY for the PS5.
And the "true" next gen games are relying as much on the dedicated IO hardware than on the new CPUs.

This. Current PCs have to do that work on the CPU.

 

[TheELF]

Spider Man was NOT made SPECIALLY for the PS5.
And the "true" next gen games are relying as much on the dedicated IO hardware than on the new CPUs.

So to this day not even that one game.

And I have heard talk that upcoming first party Playstation games won't support PS4 much longer, if at all.

I have heard talk that dual cores are dead...
Until they can put a PS5 into everybody's hand that wants one they are still going to make all of their games for the PS4.
Of course if they manage to release a system seller PS5 game that would be great for them, but as I understand it they are still trying to produce enough consoles for people that want them even without that.

 

[GunsMadeAmericaFree]

Ok, so In the end, there was no point at all to use this ECC ram, right ?

Well, I DID get it for half the price of regular ram, so there's the $ savings....