Windows 10 Reservation

[Ukaz]

If take the reservation for one system but i upgrade that system before the release of windows 10 will it still works or do i have to reserve again ?

 

[Ketchup]

If take the reservation for one system but i upgrade that system before the release of windows 10 will it still works or do i have to reserve again ?

So, are you talking like 7 to 8, 8 to 8.1, or something like that? My guess is that you would, but you don't have to take my word on that. Since the process goes through Windows Update, it will let you know what is necessary.

 

[ronbo613]

I'm thinking I will clone my Win7 install to another SSD. Then, I'll give Windows 10 a try. If I don't like it, I'll go back to Win 7. When I decide which way to go, I can use the spare 256G in my laptop, which also has Win7 on it, but on an older Kingston SSD. It's on a Crucial 256G so I'm only into it for $100.

 

[DesiPower]

I'm thinking I will clone my Win7 install to another SSD. Then, I'll give Windows 10 a try. If I don't like it, I'll go back to Win 7. When I decide which way to go, I can use the spare 256G in my laptop, which also has Win7 on it, but on an older Kingston SSD. It's on a Crucial 256G so I'm only into it for $100.

I was thinking the same, but if the cancel the Win7 activation, then you will start getting the annoying pop-up. Not to mention no more security updates...

 

[Ketchup]

When thinking about how Microsoft has traditionally used the word "Upgrade" I just don't see how Microsoft would tick off millions of people by rendering the OS they upgraded from inoperable. Not to mention it goes against every single way Microsoft has used that term.

Windows 8 was a pretty bad move in the OS release world. Making someone's old OS inoperable would be far,far worse, and I do not believe that is the direction they are wanting to go.

Outside of this offer, purchasing Windows 10 looks to be pretty much along the lanes of what they have done for years, with a few changes here and there, as they always do.

 

[puyo]

I've reserved Windows 10 also.... hope it will not be bugs

 

[baydude]

If I build a barebone PC, can I install Windows 10 for free legally?

 

[Ketchup]

If I build a barebone PC, can I install Windows 10 for free legally?

Only if you get Windows 7 or 8.1 with it.

 

[Matt_Stevens]

Interesting that my newly installed Shuttle XPC with Windows 7 Pro reserved my upgrade to 10 without my asking.

Worse, when I right click the windows 10 icon on the right hand task bar and then click on "Check Reservation" I do NOT have the ability to Cancel Reservation.

That particular screen is visible for about one single second and then I see this...

Hmmm... No Cancel Reservation. I am 100% opposed to having the upgrade download onto this PC. It has a single 120GB SSD and it's pretty darn full.

I haven't found a way to cancel after a fairly large google search. Perhaps I need to remove a Windows update? Advice? Thanks.

 

[ArisVer]

It's reserved but not confirmed.

 

[amittalkin]

Just remove the update which popped that tray icon, then reinstall it when you think you are ready for Win10 upgrade.

 

[sbpromania]

It's amazing how so many people think that they're going to wake-up one day with Windows 10 installed, not knowing what to do.

 

[ronbo613]

It's amazing how so many people think that they're going to wake-up one day with Windows 10 installed, not knowing what to do.

I think that's what many people are afraid of. I want to be able to control the installation of a new operating system. Download Windows 10 to my computer, I'll take it from there.

 

[FrankRamiro]

I'm thinking I will clone my Win7 install to another SSD. Then, I'll give Windows 10 a try. If I don't like it, I'll go back to Win 7. When I decide which way to go, I can use the spare 256G in my laptop, which also has Win7 on it, but on an older Kingston SSD. It's on a Crucial 256G so I'm only into it for $100.

How you go about cloning an HHD on a Laptop? i'm also interested on doing that,

how do you connect another HDD to your laptop to clone it?

what free software program does that?

 

[VirtualLarry]

It's amazing how so many people think that they're going to wake-up one day with Windows 10 installed, not knowing what to do.

Why not? It happened with my Engenius router. I installed 1.131.x firmware some time ago, configured it to my liking, and I just discovered a new UI with a bunch of unwanted "Cloud" features installed, that weren't there before.

I went back and checked the release notes, and one of the changes was: "Add auto-upgrade feature". Guess I forgot to explicitly disable that?

How disconcerting.

And now MS wants to do the same thing to their users, with "forced updates".

 

[stockwiz]

I'm sure you'll be able to hack the registry to use your upgrade key on a clean install like previous versions of windows. Whether it's legal or not it's the method I've used in the past. Install without key. Change registry settings. Install key into registry. Activate.

In this instance I'm just going to upgrade... I don't feel like formatting... or maybe not. We'll see. I hope they have a sale where they sell keys for $15-20 the last time I got 3 keys as I need 1-2 more.

 

[SparkyJJO]

How you go about cloning an HHD on a Laptop? i'm also interested on doing that,

how do you connect another HDD to your laptop to clone it?

what free software program does that?

Seriously not hard.
USB>SATA adapter. Use a clone program, many of them exist. Look it up.

I do not know what this "HHD" is you are referring to. HDD however I do know.

 

[ronbo613]

How you go about cloning an HHD on a Laptop? i'm also interested on doing that,

how do you connect another HDD to your laptop to clone it?

what free software program does that?

Cloning a laptop drive is no different than a desktop. Having a USB drive "dock" allows you to easily clone and access drives. I used Acronis True Image this time around, I use Clonezilla and Gparted as well.

When Windows 10 arrives I send in the clones.

 

[SilentRunning]

Q: What happens if I change the hardware configuration of my Windows 10 device?
A: If the hardware configuration of your Windows 10 device changes significantly (e.g. motherboard change) Windows may require re-activation on the device. This is the same experience as prior versions of Windows (e.g. Windows 7 and Windows 8.1). The free upgrade offer will not apply to activation of Windows 10 in such scenarios where hardware changes reset Activation.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...-upgrade/578d0b7f-57e4-4893-b9d1-6cfac0d6290a

Am I reading this right that the free upgrade dies with the device it is installed on? I can't see them saying that you can't apply the free upgrade to a device that has been reactivated due to hardware changes prior to installing the free upgrade since the upgrade period lasts 1 year.

 

[Ketchup]

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...-upgrade/578d0b7f-57e4-4893-b9d1-6cfac0d6290a

Am I reading this right that the free upgrade dies with the device it is installed on? I can't see them saying that you can't apply the free upgrade to a device that has been reactivated due to hardware changes prior to installing the free upgrade since the upgrade period lasts 1 year.

That doesn't surprise me too much, except that it sounds more like a limit for an OEM version of Windows. Microsoft has stated that your version of 7 or 8.1 will transfer to applicable version of 10, so I don't see this being a problem if you are upgrading from Pro /Ultimate /etc.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Am I reading this right that the free upgrade dies with the device it is installed on? I can't see them saying that you can't apply the free upgrade to a device that has been reactivated due to hardware changes prior to installing the free upgrade since the upgrade period lasts 1 year.

I'm not sure I understand your example, but..............

Everything I've read says that IF you free upgrade from a retail version of Windows, that retail status will be maintained in Win 10 and you will be able to swap motherboards at will thereafter, just as you can now with retail Windows 7--with the traditional "one license, one PC" rule.

If I was going to change hardware in the next year, I'd probably try to avoid the free upgrade until AFTER I changed the hardware. That might open a can of worms I'd rather leave unopened. I do plan to change hardware by year end, so I have no interest in putting 10 on my current hardware.

 

[SilentRunning]

I'm not sure I understand your example, but..............

Everything I've read says that IF you free upgrade from a retail version of Windows, that retail status will be maintained in Win 10 and you will be able to swap motherboards at will thereafter, just as you can now with retail Windows 7--with the traditional "one license, one PC" rule.

If I was going to change hardware in the next year, I'd probably try to avoid the free upgrade until AFTER I changed the hardware. That might open a can of worms I'd rather leave unopened. I do plan to change hardware by year end, so I have no interest in putting 10 on my current hardware.

What I was trying to say was

The free upgrade offer will not apply to activation of Windows 10 in such scenarios where hardware changes reset Activation.

can mean either

a. the free upgrade offer will no longer apply when hardware changes reset activation of Windows 10

or

b. the free upgrade offer will no longer apply when hardware changes reset the activation of the OS from which you are upgrading.

Scenario b makes no sense because you have a year to get a free upgrade.

Microsoft has continued to make remarks such as the free upgrade was valid for the life of the device.

They just seem to continue being lawyerly vague about their "free upgrade."

I have not read anything from a Microsoft source that states the free upgrade carries the same license as the OS from which you upgraded.

 

[Ketchup]

... I have not read anything from a Microsoft source that states the free upgrade carries the same license as the OS from which you upgraded.

http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2015/0...ndows-10-will-you-get-with-your-free-upgrade/

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Microsoft has continued to make remarks such as the free upgrade was valid for the life of the device.

They just seem to continue being lawyerly vague about their "free upgrade."

Yes, they are vague; probably deliberately so.

All we can do is stand aside and let some other poor b.......... be the canary in the coal mine. I'm standing aside until my questions are answered.

I guess you are talking about something like this:

You have a Dell with an OEM Win 7 Home Premium license. You accept the free upgrade to Win 10 Home in October. All is well. The motherboard fails in November.

In recent history, MS would be rather lenient in allowing you to replace the motherboard and re-use the same OEM license. It might take a phone call, but I rarely hear of anyone being outright refused if they explain the situation to a human customer support rep at MS. At one time, such leniency was supposedly restricted to retail licenses, but I repeatedly hear of people who had no issues with OEM motherboard replacement.

I have no idea if that leniency will continue under the new licensing/update/upgrade model under Windows 10.

 

[taisingera]

If all of the last few posts is true, this sounds like a bigger problem for those of us who build our own PCs. I just bought a Win8.1 retail key, I am thinking of just using that until I see where this is headed. Now on my refurbished Dell laptop with OEM license, I don't mind putting Win10 on because I won't ever be able to transfer that license, and more than likely if the mobo fails on it, I will probably just buy a new "refurbished" laptop.