Windows 10 recycle bin

[frozentundra123456]

I just opened the recycle bin and was going to delete everything. WTF, there is no "empty recycle bin" button. You have to click on the manage tab to get the button to show. Was it really necessary to inflict that ribbon atrocity on the recycle bin, while hiding the button that I was looking for?

Overall I like Win 10, but seriously, what was wrong before? Was it too simple or something to empty the recycle bin with one click on a clearly visible button? Honestly, no matter how hard they try to make a version of windows, do they have to change something that worked perfectly just to confuse and p*** off the user? Software engineers get paid big bucks to do this crap, and I cant find a job???

Not much of a thread I know, but I am just flabbergasted at this, and seriously, I think it is symbolic of a mindset at MS of changing something that worked perfectly to make it more complicated and requiring more clicks to accomplish the same task.

 

[OlyAR15]

Right-click -> Empty Recycle Bin

How much easier can it be?

 

[abekl]

really. People can be so lame.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I just opened the recycle bin and was going to delete everything. WTF, there is no "empty recycle bin" button. You have to click on the manage tab to get the button to show. Was it really necessary to inflict that ribbon atrocity on the recycle bin, while hiding the button that I was looking for?

Overall I like Win 10, but seriously, what was wrong before? Was it too simple or something to empty the recycle bin with one click on a clearly visible button? Honestly, no matter how hard they try to make a version of windows, do they have to change something that worked perfectly just to confuse and p*** off the user? Software engineers get paid big bucks to do this crap, and I cant find a job???

Not much of a thread I know, but I am just flabbergasted at this, and seriously, I think it is symbolic of a mindset at MS of changing something that worked perfectly to make it more complicated and requiring more clicks to accomplish the same task.

Actually this is the mindset of people who just want to pick on Microsoft instead of using common sense...or as appears to be the Op`s case -- not so common sense ,,,,shese..just right click and empty the thing!!

 

[Ketchup]

Just one more level of "are you sure." You still have the option to skip the recycle bin altogether, as well as the dialog box.

TBH, the one I have on my virtual machine, from the Insider program, comes up with the ribbon displaying Empty Recycle Bin when I first open it.

 

[corkyg]

Funny - I find the Recycle Bin in Win 10 to work exactly the same as in 8.1, 8, 7, XP, and 98. Empty has always been in right click menu. As Ketchup79 said, it can generally be disabled, and if the shift key is help down for a specific delete, it will not go in the RB.

BTW, since the thread relates to the Win10 OS, I moved it.

 

[Puffnstuff]

My recycle bin is the same as it's always been with no difference in how it works.

 

[JimmiG]

Right-click -> Empty Recycle Bin

How much easier can it be?

That's how I've been doing it since around 1995. Didn't even realize there are other ways to do it.

 

[Shawn]

Shift+Del

 

[SparkyJJO]

If you have the ribbon not hidden then the empty button is clearly visible. Why do you have the ribbon hidden? When MS removed the toolbar on Windows Vista/7 I always thought it a bit odd/annoying, glad they brought it back (in ribbon form) in 8.

I don't understand the hate for the ribbon frankly. It is basically like any other toolbar, except it is categorized by tabs to fit more tools into it instead of a very limited tool set.

 

[mikeymikec]

,,,,shese..just right click and empty the thing!!

Hopefully I can start with an assumption that we can agree with - If a user wants to empty the recycle bin, it might be worth double-checking what's in there first. So the user double-clicks on the recycle bin.

Then you're suggesting that the user should then close the recycle bin, right-click on it, then empty it? This is what you refer to as a common sense approach, as opposed to what older versions of Windows (7 and previous) had, being an always-visible option to empty the recycle bin?

Just one more level of "are you sure."

Would you find it a) irritating or b) more irritating you were presented with a second "are you sure" message directly after the first? (e.g. "are you really really sure?") Yeah, sure, the behaviour can be customised but first impressions count and a lot of users probably have never realised that the behaviour can be customised.

Consider that the user has already deleted a file (<=7's default settings, asked "are you sure" once), then when they empty the recycle bin (or right-click and delete a file from it), they're asked a second time. Is there really a need to jump through an additional hoop/click by having to click on 'manage' first, considering that all versions of Windows on default settings will prompt before emptying the bin?

I agree with the OP (though I should point out that this behaviour isn't new to 10, it was in 8x as well).

I don't understand the hate for the ribbon frankly. It is basically like any other toolbar, except it is categorized by tabs to fit more tools into it instead of a very limited tool set.

I'm surprised, this topic has been done to death already. Taking MSO as an example, the ribbon is non-customisable. On MSO2003 and previous, the toolbars were customisable. For newbie/basic office users I have always stripped the toolbars down to what they needed, to make it easier for them to find things. With the ribbon there is no customisation, the only workaround is the 'quick access toolbar', which is pretty much an admission that the ribbon is not a 'one size fits all' solution, that the older system was better, and it is unnecessarily cluttered.

IMHO the ribbon is part and parcel of the "our way or the highway" approach to UI design that's been going on for the last ten years.

 

[us3rnotfound]

My big pet peeve de jour is the settings environment that's completely different from the good old control panel desktop app.

 

[Mem]

really. People can be so lame.

Yep!!...Mine is in the same place as my previous Operating Systems ie on taskbar where I like it,

Every Windows OS is easy to customise , if you can be bothered to actually use your mouse .

 

[JEDIYoda]

Hopefully I can start with an assumption that we can agree with - If a user wants to empty the recycle bin, it might be worth double-checking what's in there first. So the user double-clicks on the recycle bin.

Then you're suggesting that the user should then close the recycle bin, right-click on it, then empty it? This is what you refer to as a common sense approach, as opposed to what older versions of Windows (7 and previous) had, being an always-visible option to empty the recycle bin?

I am sorry but I had windows 7 on my laptop and I emptied the Recycle bin exavtly the way I emptied the recycle bin with windows 8.....so yes common sense.....recycle bin was also emptied exactly the same way in windows 2000 and 98.....so YES -- common sense!!

 

[frozentundra123456]

Gee surprised at all the responses. I definitely had been having a bad day, and probably over-reacted to a minor change, and my post was somewhat in jest. I still stand by my contention, though, that MS often changes things that work perfectly well and makes them more complicated/requiring more clicks to accomplish the same thing for no good reason. And yes, I am old and set in my ways, but I still hate the ribbon, although I have grown to tolerate it.

As to customizing the OS, why should I, or the normal even less knowledgeable user have to customize something to get back what was a better/simpler option.

 

[Mem]

As to customizing the OS, why should I, or the normal even less knowledgeable user have to customize something to get back what was a better/simpler option.

You don't have too, point is everybody has different needs and likes to use the OS slightly differently, having customisation gives the user more options and choices and has been on Windows for decades, nothing new on Win10.

End of the day you have to have some basic knowledge even to use simple Windows, you can't expect to be spoon fed for the rest of your life.

Yes you overreacted way too much.

 

[SparkyJJO]

I'm not really entirely sure the issue though. I mean, I open the recycle bin and the "empty" button is like right there, no extra clicks or anything

 

[OlyAR15]

The issue is that the op is an idiot that barely knows how to operate a PC, and any deviation from the "right" way to do anything causes extreme outrage.





No need to call anyone an idiot. Personal attacks and name calling are not allowed in tech.


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[MongGrel]

Seems to be working as intended.

 

[DustinBrowder]

Funny - I find the Recycle Bin in Win 10 to work exactly the same as in 8.1, 8, 7, XP, and 98. Empty has always been in right click menu. As Ketchup79 said, it can generally be disabled, and if the shift key is help down for a specific delete, it will not go in the RB.

BTW, since the thread relates to the Win10 OS, I moved it.

No it doesn't. Jeesh you and others attack others for being ignorant or wrong, but it is you and the rest of you who are wrong!

Win ME through win 7 all had "empty recycle bin" and "restore object" inside the bin on the left panel. So you know, you could select files individually and delete only certain files! If you just use right click and delete you delete all, sometimes you might still need a file in the recycle bin, so you enter in and only delete and files you want or you restore.

The option was on the left side in the menu, in win10 that menu is the useless folders for quick access, computer and network.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Hello? I posted a pic only 3 posts up from yours that shows those exact same buttons clearly visible upon opening the recycle bin. What is the problem? Oh no, they moved from the left edge to the top!

 

[Puffnstuff]

While it's true what SparkyJJO says about the icons being available in the recycle bin management tools it's a PITA to go through all of those steps. There should be a quick access bar on the top of the windows with those features readily available to click on.

 

[SparkyJJO]

What do you mean by "all those steps"? I open recycle bin and they are right there. I'm not clicking anything else to get to them!

Do I need to make a video or something? How is this so hard?

 

[Puffnstuff]

When I open recycle bin I see a blank border and after I click on manage those buttons appear.

 

[SparkyJJO]

You have the ribbon minimized then. Click the little arrow next to the help icon on the right (below the X) and it'll default to being open. No more extra steps.

I prefer the ribbon open in Explorer as it gives quick access to all the various tools like copy, paste, etc, that 7 (or Vista) removed for some reason.