Windows 10 . . . . on a P4 - for VirtualLarry!

escrow4

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EksRYrLD5jY

I am amazed it actually more or less works, unlike this one - Win 10 with 192MB RAM (and a P4 apparently [hopefully]):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmqN6V9Cyo0

Speaking of which, its surprising how far today's celeron's have come. Slap a G1820 in and its capable.

Here is a stack of "low-end" processors:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+4+3.00GHz&id=1074

Whilst the G1820:

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+G1820+%40+2.70GHz

is nearly as fast as a Q6600.

I wonder how the latest Celeron's will age. Hmmmm.
 

SPBHM

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that's an lga 775 Pentium 4, it should work
win10 requirements are basically the same as win8 (SSE2, NX bit), some socket478 boards might have a problem with the NX bit, but 775 should be likely to work.

the worst thing I tried windows 8.1 was a Sempron64 with 512MB of ram, the HD was working hard it was not usable realistically, but the CPU should be good with 1, 1.5GB of memory, I would expect 10 to be the same
 

redzo

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I challenge the usability of those P4 machines, unless you're work relies on notepad. Even so, once windows update kicks in, it starts beating itself to death.

I don't recall anyone denying the fact that you will not be able to install 32bit 8.1 and 10 on P4 era hardware. 64bit is the issue.
 

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I am amazed it actually more or less works, unlike this one - Win 10 with 192MB RAM (and a P4 apparently [hopefully]):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmqN6V9Cyo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmqN6V9Cyo0

192MB RAM? You'll not be able to do much of anything without thrashing the harddrive.

XP (RTM) could run with 128MB, whilst 512MB was more-or-less required for a decent experience with SP3. I remember someone trying to use XP with 64MB, lets just say you don't want to try that.

x86 Vista and newer really needs 1GB to even run halfway decent. Double that for x64, and even that is borderline.

Speaking of which, its surprising how far today's celeron's have come. Slap a G1820 in and its capable.

Here is a stack of "low-end" processors:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+4+3.00GHz&id=1074

Whilst the G1820:

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+G1820+@+2.70GHz

is nearly as fast as a Q6600.

I wonder how the latest Celeron's will age. Hmmmm.

If you think that's impressive, remember the same thing has happened at the high-end...

that's an lga 775 Pentium 4, it should work
win10 requirements are basically the same as win8 (SSE2, NX bit), some socket478 boards might have a problem with the NX bit, but 775 should be likely to work.

I don't recall anyone denying the fact that you will not be able to install 32bit 8.1 and 10 on P4 era hardware. 64bit is the issue.

The only P4 theoretically able to run x64 Windows 10 is the last Cedar Mill variety. For some reason I don't think I want to try that though... :D
 

TeknoBug

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This makes me wonder, I recently gave away my dual Pentium Pro 220MHz system after running it almost 24/7 since 2001, wonder how Win 10 would've run on it.
 

lamedude

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Starting with Vista you need an ACPI BIOS dated January 1, 1999 or later.
 

Iron Woode

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I ran win 10 x64 on my old Dell Vostro 400 (Q6600) and it ran fine just slightly sluggish.

A long time ago I ran win 7 x64 on a P4 630 with 1gb ram and it ran ok.
 

Shivansps

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Windows 7 installs on everything, even Pentium MMX, but you need 512MB in order to install it.

Win8 and Win10 have the NX bit and ACPI requeriments, that left out several 478 boards, not to mention the issue with DX9 compatible IGP, lots of mb of that era with VIA/SIS igps.
 

DrMrLordX

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The only P4 theoretically able to run x64 Windows 10 is the last Cedar Mill variety. For some reason I don't think I want to try that though... :D

If you're gonna run a single-core P4, Cedar Mill is the one to run. They weren't great, but they were definitely a step up from Prescott.

Chaintech? LOL. They were the stuff back then. Black PCBs and all that. Memories.

I loved my Chaintech vnf3-250. It was cheap, and it pushed my 1.6 GHz Sempron 2800+ (Palermo) to 2.32 GHz. I would've needed a LANParty board to go higher. And a better HSF and PSU.
 

superstition

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that's an lga 775 Pentium 4, it should work
win10 requirements are basically the same as win8 (SSE2, NX bit), some socket478 boards might have a problem with the NX bit, but 775 should be likely to work.

the worst thing I tried windows 8.1 was a Sempron64 with 512MB of ram, the HD was working hard it was not usable realistically, but the CPU should be good with 1, 1.5GB of memory, I would expect 10 to be the same
Windows 8.1 64 runs fine with the 2GB RAM 3100+ Sempron (E6).
 

VirtualLarry

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I think, this takes the cake.

Notice how the PC starts taking 100% CPU time when he opens Task Manager?

That's kind of like how it was when I put Windows 10 64-bit on my Foxconn NanoPC C-70 PCs.

Edit: I recently dug out and re-did my NanoPCs, with 32GB SSDs, and Win10 April 2016 install WIMs.

They were surprisingly usable after the updating calmed down. Version 1511 and newer seem even more svelte than the original Win10 release.
 
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SPBHM

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Notice how the PC starts taking 100% CPU time when he opens Task Manager?

That's kind of like how it was when I put Windows 10 64-bit on my Foxconn NanoPC C-70 PCs.


my A64 X2 have like 1-5% load on win10 x64 with task manager open, if you have a very slow CPU perhaps it's best to leave the PC sitting for a while for it to complete the install/updates and so on before using it

(as long as it's not a Pentium 90 with 128mb)
 

Magic Carpet

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Notice how the PC starts taking 100% CPU time when he opens Task Manager?

That's kind of like how it was when I put Windows 10 64-bit on my Foxconn NanoPC C-70 PCs.
Yeah..., imagine someone with that kind of processing power having to deal with on a regular basis D:

(And I thought my Pentium 133 was slow when I first tried Windows XP on it)