Windows 10: I am not seeing the Advanced tab to check my Ultra DMA mode.

[shortylickens]

Amazingly I cannot find any help on this issue thru the web.

Installed Win 10 Pro and my SSD's are blazing fast but my 3TB WD Red Drive is crawling. I dont know why. Nothing is wrong in the BIOS, and the drive works plenty fast when I swap it to my Win 7 system.

Everything else pops up in Device Manager, no other issues.
Well, also under the IDE/ATA Controllers theres no advanced tab and not much info.

Whats going on here?

 

[shortylickens]

 

[Ed1]

Isn't that a old setting at not used if you run in AHCI mode.
I think it was used for IDE drives
FWIW I don't have it either, been long time since I remember that setting.

See what others say.

 

[Ketchup]

Thr 3 TB Red is a 5400 RPM drive. It's going to be slow.

 

[shortylickens]

Thr 3 TB Red is a 5400 RPM drive. It's going to be slow.

That does not explain where my Advanced Tab is.

ALSO:
That same drive was testing at 85 megs per second under Windows 7. Now its running at 9 megs per second.

 

[XavierMace]

You look to be missing proper drivers for your SATA controllers. That's not a good start.

 

[Ed1]

Yeh, that controller should say Intel so update drivers and see if it helps.

 

[Ketchup]

That does not explain where my Advanced Tab is.

ALSO:
That same drive was testing at 85 megs per second under Windows 7. Now its running at 9 megs per second.

Are we talking about the same computer here? What motherboard/ computer model is giving you the low numbers?

 

[quikah]

The DMA setting is on the controller, not the drive. This is on my Windows 7 and Windows 10 system.

What is under Storage Controllers section? Seems like you are missing some things from the IDE controllers section.

 

[VirtualLarry]

The DMA setting is on the controller, not the drive. This is on my Windows 7 and Windows 10 system.

What is under Storage Controllers section? Seems like you are missing some things from the IDE controllers section.

Correct. There's no DMA section for a "Standard AHCI controller" that I know of. It would only appear if you were using a SATA HDD, in "Legacy" or "IDE" controller mode in the BIOS. Even so, not sure that it would apply.

 

[vailr]

Probably missing the Intel chipset and Intel RST (SATA AHCI) controller drivers.
Try using Iobit Driver Booster (free):
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/iobit_driver_booster.html
However, replacing the 5400 RPM hard drive with a 7200 RPM hard drive would also be a good idea.
Put the 5400 RPM drive in an external USB housing and use it for long-term storage.

 

[shortylickens]

I reset the computer a couple times, drive is now benchmarking at 151 megs per second, which is a hair faster than the Win 7 speeds.
Still cant see the Advanced Tab, under the drive or the SATA controller (same as before). But based on what I'm getting the thing must be running in Ultra DMA 6 now.

 

[XavierMace]

I reset the computer a couple times, drive is now benchmarking at 151 megs per second, which is a hair faster than the Win 7 speeds.
Still cant see the Advanced Tab, under the drive or the SATA controller (same as before). But based on what I'm getting the thing must be running in Ultra DMA 6 now.

You've had 3 separate people tell you that you're missing the proper drivers for the controller. You may want to consider installing the drivers for your controller.

 

[UsandThem]

You've had 3 separate people tell you that you're missing the proper drivers for the controller. You may want to consider installing the drivers for your controller.

I would have said the same thing if I hadn't just discovered that the standard Microsoft SATA AHCI driver was a better choice than its Intel counterpart in this thread:

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...rus-needed-slow-850-evo-issue-solved.2498047/

 

[XavierMace]

Except he's specifically looking for a feature/option that's missing. Step 1 is always install the proper drivers.

 

[UsandThem]

Except he's specifically looking for a feature/option that's missing. Step 1 is always install the proper drivers.

It's been a while since I used a HDD, but I thought Ultra DMA was a thing of the past that died along with with IDE drives? I Googled to see, and I'm only seeing results pre-2006 or so. So maybe that's why it's not there?

 

[XavierMace]

That would be my guess as well, but again. Installing the proper drivers will confirm that.

 

[shortylickens]

Windows 10 did not auto-find the drivers.

I ran the install CD from my motherboard.
It took a while and when it was all over I couldnt see any changes in the Device Manager.
Sorry if I forgot to mention that.

I am not a beginner. I've been making my own systems since DOS 3.0. I remember the first time I got a decent motherboard that came with a driver disc I damn near wet myself.
One thing I've noticed is that while building a fresh computer is marginally easier with each new OS, each new OS also introduces brand new problems which I have to research and the research process gets more infuriating each time around.

 

[el-Capitan]

In Win10 RST drivers are no longer necessary if you do not use the RAID function.

The only disadvantage is that the Win10 driver does not activate the HIPM and DIPM modes for energy saving in idle. This can however be rectified by this nifty little script:
ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/listings/1624-144.zip (link in German)

Accompanying article (in German) https://www.heise.de/ct/hotline/Int...wt_mc=print.ct.2016.24.142#zsdb-article-links