Win7 and Gigabit NAS

VirtualLarry

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I have a Gigabit NAS. I have it configured with a Username/Password that is the same as my Username/Password on my XP box. Access works, pretty seamlessly and transparently.

I got a new Win7 HP laptop. I named my account on that machine the same name as my XP Username. I did not give the laptop account a password.

I tried browsing the network from the win7 laptop, and it sees the Gigabit NAS, but when I clicked on the share to access it, it prompted me for a Username/Password. So I type my Username and Password that is on the share, and it says access denied.

I double-checked the XP box, and it can still access it.

What should I do? Is there something different about file sharing in Win7 that I need to be aware of? (Thinking of Lanman hash versus newer settings?)

Edit: I went to advanced file sharing settings in Win7, and turned the encryption down from 128-bit to 40- or 56-bit, didn't help.

I noticed that when I have to enter my login info, it says at the bottom: "Domain: EMACHINES-PC". Why would this laptop think that I'm on a domain? When it prompts me for my password, it has the username as "EMACHINES-PC\(username)", not just "(username)".

Could that be the problem? How do I change this laptop to not think it's on a domain?

Edit: I went to System Properties, and it has an option to type in a computer description, and underneath it says "Full computer name: emachines-PC" and "Workgroup: WORKGROUP".
However, the next option where it says "To use a wizard to join a domain or workgroup, click Network ID" is totally greyed out. I've never seen that greyed out before.
Below that, it says "To rename this computer, click Change." That is not greyed out.

So how do I get Win7 to not think it's on it's own domain, and pass my Username on as just "(username)", instead of "(domain)\(username)"?

Edit: I got it working, but I'm not happy about it. I have another machine that runs Win7 HP on my LAN, that was already configured to prompt for a password at login. The UN/PW combo was the same as the NAS share. On that machine, I am able to login to the NAS seamlessly.

So I tried changing my windows password on the Win7 laptop, and lo and behold, it worked. So now I have to deal with the annoyance of typing in a password, every time I want to use my laptop, just to make my NAS happy.

This HAS to be a BUG in Win7. How can it not work when it prompts you for credentials, but it works seamlessly if it prompts you at login for the same credentials.
 
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MalVeauX

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Heya,

Win 7 is a pain in the butt for networking with if you just want it to be open and without login/passwords. They did that on purpose for security (since that's all the rage these days, and probably pointless, how often do you get your network attacked, after your completely meaningless data?). I digress...

I went through all this too. But in the end, I really like Win 7. Even if networking requires more clicking and typing. So there's a simple solution for it all.

1. All machines you use should have the same login/password. Yes, set a password. In file sharing, use names/passwords, don't leave it open. You've already done this, so great.

2. All machines should be on the same Workgroup. Domain is completely different, and really shouldn't even be there unless you're part of some kind of corporate network. This isn't needed for all OS's, but it's important for older ones like XP.

4. Share as normal. But don't use that simple file sharing. Use password/user file sharing. When you share something on the computer, regardless of OS, click on permissions. Put in the user name that you put on each of these computers (your login). Grant full access to that user. Apply this to XP, Vista, Win 7, etc.

5. You don't like typing passwords to login. That's ok, you don't have to:

Win 7 (auto login with the desired login/password): Link.
Win XP (auto login with desired login/password): Link.

It's basically the same on the two OS's, but there you go regardless.

Simple fix. You just type in the password one time. Then it will auto log you in every time. No more typing of passwords. No more login screens. You will navigate your network without typing passwords, see everything, access everything, but it's all secure under login/password all the while. Pretty sweet.

Very best,