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Win10 breaking remote desktop?

Ichinisan

Lifer
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Upgraded from Win8 Professional + WMC to Windows 10 Pro, now I can't access my computer via RDP with any remote desktop client.

I tried connecting via LAN with the stored profile on the official Microsoft Remote Desktop app for iOS. Tried from my Win7 Pro workstation at work. Can't connect. I routinely connected from my iPad and Win7 workstation multiple times per day and it worked fine before I installed Win10 on the host machine. The machine has the same LAN IP address it always had (reserved and associated to the MAC ID in my router).

Remote Desktop is still enabled. I tried disabling and re-enabling. I made sure there was still an exception in the Windows Firewall. I haven't tried completely disabling the Windows Firewall.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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Didn't you find out that it was caused by your network getting changed from Home/Private to Public after the upgrade even after opting out of all the cloud BS?
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
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The network profile for my wired Ethernet connection somehow changed to public (the "find other devices and printers" option was turned-off), so it wasn't using the correct rules from Windows Firewall while treating my home network as a public network.

After fixing that, I can do Remote Desktop again from LAN and from WAN.

There's no good reason why my network profile should change like that while upgrading from 8.1 to 10.
 

Mushkins

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There's no good reason why my network profile should change like that while upgrading from 8.1 to 10.

Sure there is, it's a brand new network adapter according to the OS with brand new drivers and the default setting is Public because it has the tightest security settings associated with it. Upgrading your OS does a complete wipe/redetect of devices in the device manager and tries to automatically reinstall anything with the new default Windows 10 drivers, which resets the settings and tweaks associated with it.

The first time a new network connection is detected you normally get a prompt asking what kind of network it is, but I've been running into fringe cases where that popup doesn't come up going all the way back to Win 7 pre-SP1. If you don't select a network type and just X out of the box it will always default to Public.
 

CZroe

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Sure there is, it's a brand new network adapter according to the OS with brand new drivers and the default setting is Public because it has the tightest security settings associated with it. Upgrading your OS does a complete wipe/redetect of devices in the device manager and tries to automatically reinstall anything with the new default Windows 10 drivers, which resets the settings and tweaks associated with it.

The first time a new network connection is detected you normally get a prompt asking what kind of network it is, but I've been running into fringe cases where that popup doesn't come up going all the way back to Win 7 pre-SP1. If you don't select a network type and just X out of the box it will always default to Public.

Then it should not have remembered his connection settings either. :colbert:

The preference should be associated with the connection setting and not with the adapter if it's going to bother to remember that at all. It was a design decision, but so was the decision to not associate wireless connection settings with a particular network adapter and not lose all that with a wipe/redetection of network devices.
 

Ichinisan

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Sure there is, it's a brand new network adapter according to the OS with brand new drivers and the default setting is Public because it has the tightest security settings associated with it. Upgrading your OS does a complete wipe/redetect of devices in the device manager and tries to automatically reinstall anything with the new default Windows 10 drivers, which resets the settings and tweaks associated with it.

The first time a new network connection is detected you normally get a prompt asking what kind of network it is, but I've been running into fringe cases where that popup doesn't come up going all the way back to Win 7 pre-SP1. If you don't select a network type and just X out of the box it will always default to Public.

You're looking at it from the wrong perspective. The system was properly configured and working fine. After the update, it was improperly configured and no longer working fine. Microsoft is the only one in a position to save people the hassle of identifying / fixing the issue.

On any new Windows 7/8 system, the pop-up asks if you want to "treat all future networks I connect to as public." I'm pretty familiar with that option and made sure to leave it un-checked.