WIn XP Activation question

WageSlave

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Hi...

Sorry to bring up soemthing that has been brought up countless times before but im a little confused..Ive heard that windows XP activation
locks the code to your hardware, however I have a friend who has used the same code to install it on every one of his machines...
(no my friend is not me :p ) and from what I understood this isnt possible.. I dont think he is using any special kind of crack or anything
so whats the deal? Just curious... he doesnt know why it works either..... And this is not a question im using to figure out how
to pirate XP.. I just want to know why this is working when I thought it wasn't supposed too...

thanks
 

Derango

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The Activation code is different from the product ID code. The ID code is printed on the winXP packaging. The Activation code is created by taking this product code and combining it with a hash produced by your hardware, which would make the resulting number unique to the system which is being actiavted. There are ways around it, but without cracks or anything, this number cannot be used on another copy of XP.
 

cleverhandle

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Has your friend actually activated Windows, or just installed it? It will install fine on multiple machines, but the online activation should be refused after the first activation. If not, then he's probably using a cracked version. Even if the hardware configurations were identical, the activation runs off of serial numbers, and should reject multiple requests.
 

WageSlave

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I gaurantee this guy is not uasing any type of crack..he has installed it on 5 different machines now, and everyone activates..I dont just mean install, it activates just fine..... .... It is a Dell OEM version of XP that came with his computer....


 

WageSlave

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GonzoDaGr8,


That was pretty unecesarry, did it make you feel cool?


I doubt my friend gives a rats a$$ about any of that, but thats really not the question. Im not pirating the software, nor do I intend, im simply curious as to why the activation continues to work with the same code over and over again.....


"I dont post in your toilet, so dont crap in my thread"
 

bozo1

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Are all the computers Dell's? The Dell OEM version supposedly does not require activation as long as the machine it is installed on has a Dell BIOS.
 

GonzoDaGr8

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Dood!! you are openly admitting that your "Friend" is pirating Windoze...Do you think that is cool? This is the exact reason why we now have "activation" on XP...To stop people from casually setting up Winders on multiple machines. I did not post that to be cool and do however understand the legitimacy of your question...I would be curious as hell too, but posting topics that have to anything with the word "piracy" in it get looked down upon here.. Just as a side note:What version of XP is your "friend" using? Home, Pro, or Corp? I am also surprised that a DELL copy would actually work on any other machine.

Are all the computers Dell's? The Dell OEM version supposedly does not require activation as long as the machine it is installed on has a Dell BIOS.

I was going to add that, but bozo1 typed faster than me..:eek:
 

bozo1

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<< I am also surprised that a DELL copy would actually work on any other machine. >>


On a non-Dell machine, it just acts like any other version of XP and requires activation within the allotted time frame.
 

WageSlave

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Dood!! you are openly admitting that your "Friend" is pirating Windoze...Do you think that is cool?

Do I think it's cool? no not really... Do I think its wrong? No, not really that either. Im not a hude fan of an unchecked capitialism and huge corporations, but those are issues that are beyond the scope of this message board. But the fact is, my feelings on those things dont matter in this context.. im not pirating windows, and im not aiding in the pirating of windows in anyway, I am simply curious about the situation. Im not here asking HOW to pirate windows either.... Just pointing out an anomoly in the activation process. As far as

but posting topics that have to anything with the word "piracy" in it get looked down upon here

goes, I dont really care about that either. Im not advocating or promoting piracy in anyway, so if someone doesnt like it that my friend has pirated windows, then you can go and tell him yuorself, im not about to, nor doI feel it is an ethical responsiblity for me to do so (please dont generalize this statement to other situations, just because I dont feel a responsibility to interven here, doesnt mean I wouldnt intervene in soemthing I thought of as truly 'wrong' )


Back to the subject


The machines are not all Dell's they are from other OEM manufacturers and some are home built I belive. the version is XP HOME reinstallation CD.

 

bozo1

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<< the version is XP HOME reinstallation CD >>


In that case, it shouldn't let him activate more than once. Are you sure he is doing the activation and not just registration? If so, I dunno...

 

GonzoDaGr8

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I agree with Bozo1....Ask your friend if he is actually "Activating" through MS or merely doing the registration...I highly doubt that they are actually activating. I have gone through the activation process enough times to know that that stupid crap can be pretty unforgiving. If your friend IS actually activating, I say he's got a golden copy there. BTW, It wasn't my intention to get your BVDs' all tied in a not...No more thread crapping :p
 

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Is this mean that I need to reactivate the code everytime I change Hardware?
I just got win XP from one of those .net thingy last night.

I have not install it on my machine yet.
 

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<< Dood!! you are openly admitting that your "Friend" is pirating Windoze...Do you think that is cool?

Do I think it's cool? no not really... Do I think its wrong? No, not really that either. Im not a hude fan of an unchecked capitialism and huge corporations
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:confused:

I'm not a big fan of personal property. So I'm coming over to take all your stuff.
rolleye.gif


It's amazing the lengths people will go to to justify theft and their twisted sense of entitlement.
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WageSlave

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I'm not a big fan of personal property. So I'm coming over to take all your stuff.

It's amazing the lengths people will go to to justify theft and their twisted sense of entitlement.


That was taken out of context, and I suppose you did that because the only way you could flame me was if you took what I said out of context. Im not going to got on a Rant about this, because people that make statements like yours are only looking to start flame wars or push their own views on someone else. As ive said in this thread many times before, im not advocating or participating in piracy. Im noot breaking the 'rules' but I do however have a right to disagree with them without being persecuted. Go hunt witches somewhere else please. I think I made that very very clear in my last reply, but I guess you must have missed it, so ill quote it:

Im not a huge fan of an unchecked capitialism and huge corporations, but those are issues that are beyond the scope of this message board. But the fact is, my feelings on those things dont matter in this context.. im not pirating windows, and im not aiding in the pirating of windows in anyway, I am simply curious about the situation.[/b] Im not here asking HOW to pirate windows either.... Just pointing out an anomoly in the activation process....... (please dont generalize this statement to other situations, just because I dont feel a responsibility to intervene here, doesnt mean I wouldnt intervene in soemthing I thought of as truly 'wrong' ) We all have different ideas about what is right and wrong, and we can discuss those differences without insults and ignorance. However im not looking to discuss these things here at all. This thread is NOT about the ethics of pirating, private property, or capitalism. Its about what seems to be a strange incident in a piece of software.


I agree with Bozo1....Ask your friend if he is actually "Activating" through MS or merely doing the registration...I highly doubt that they are actually activating. I have gone through the activation process enough times to know that that stupid crap can be pretty unforgiving. If your friend IS actually activating, I say he's got a golden copy there. BTW, It wasn't my intention to get your BVDs' all tied in a not...No more thread crapping

It's ok, I may have overeacted a bit, but I think that is understandable. Im so used to posts like AmusedOne's that I tend to be jumpy about such things.


Once again, back to the topic, and let me make this clear:

It IS indeed activating on multiple NON Dell machines. There is no doubt about this... It looks like no one knows whats going on, so oh well. For those of you that havent been uneccessarily crappy about this thread, I will post an update when I find out what happens down the road....
 

GonzoDaGr8

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It IS indeed activating on multiple NON Dell machines. There is no doubt about this... It looks like no one knows whats going on, so oh well. For those of you that havent been uneccessarily crappy about this thread, I will post an update when I find out what happens down the road....

Damn!! Either he's hit the lottery and got a golden disk or somehow slipping through the cracks at MS.. I have no idea how that could be happening after having to deal with activation a number of times myself on just one machine.:frown: honestly though..If you do somehow find out how this is happening, you might want to keep it between yourself and your friend and enjoy.;)
 

CoDerEd

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got a golden disk or somehow slipping through the cracks at MS

I thinks that's what happened, he just lucky.

peace
 

WageSlave

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Just out of curiosity... when you do reactivate a code, how does it work? do you have to give some kind of proof of purchase? do they track and require personal info?

 

Dre

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<< Just out of curiosity... when you do reactivate a code, how does it work? do you have to give some kind of proof of purchase? do they track and require personal info? >>




When I reactivated winxp pro, they told me I had already isntalled it on a computer. I told them I upgraded some parts in my computer. Then they asked me what I upgraded. I told them cpu, hd, memory, ect...Then they asked me for my full name. I gave them it and then they gave me the reactivation code to input into winxp.
 

Dre

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<< strange I dont like the idea of giving them any of my info, even if I AM usign a legal copy. >>



I often wonder what they would have told me if I said "It's none of your business". I'm going to be buying a new harddrive this week and use the same winxp I have activated twice now. I think this time, I will not give them any information and see what happens. I will post my results.
 

WageSlave

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I often wonder what they would have told me if I said "It's none of your business". I'm going to be buying a new harddrive this week and use the same winxp I have activated twice now. I think this time, I will not give them any information and see what happens. I will post my results.

I would be interested in that also... and again out of curiosity... how do they have any clue that you just want to reactivate? couldnt you just call with any code and say that you wanted to activate it, because you bought a new computer, took it off your old one and want to use it on your new system?
 

johnlog

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A friend of mine bought XP and installed it on one computer. He activated it with no problems. When he tried installing it on a second computer and tried to activate it he got an error message saying it has been activated on another computer and he coould not activate it on another computer.

The only way that could work on multiple computers is if that person is using some sort of activation crack program. If they are not activated one day it will not boot up. A fun time for no one. Better to install Win ME. ;)

 

Idoxash

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or you just be like me ( don't have much stuff to put on a pc use it for games normall net stuff ) i also upgread a lot and do not wish nor can
i pay for big phone bills to them dumb ms ppl....so every 29 days i back up my stuff and format my hd install xp again and in less then 3 hrs
i'm ready to start where i left off from...........simple and easy......


thing is if i use this pc like i did with 98 i format every 3 mths............man i don't want or need to worrly of them calls and trying to get new
codes........freak that!!!
 

Dre

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<< i also upgread a lot and do not wish nor can i pay for big phone bills to them dumb ms ppl.... >>




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