Win the lottery, continue getting food stamps

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AyashiKaibutsu

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Really? She's a bit amoral for collecting benefits (I seem to remember some members of AT railing against unemployment and then collecting it anyway), but good that she died? Over what? A few thousand dollars that she ended up getting convicted of defrauding anyway. I hope you're just joking.
 

SheHateMe

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Really? She's a bit amoral for collecting benefits (I seem to remember some members of AT railing against unemployment and then collecting it anyway), but good that she died? Over what? A few thousand dollars that she ended up getting convicted of defrauding anyway. I hope you're just joking.

Nothing about this community surprises me anymore.
 

Matt1970

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No matter how bad she was for taking the welfare after hitting the lottery she still didn't deserve to die.
 

alzan

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Against people getting their own money they paid into something? No.

Against pure handouts and effectively stealing from tax payers? Test every single one of them. If you have any asset that needs to be recorded and you only get assistance when you run out of things to sell.

At your expense. You can pay for it out of your winnings from bets.

Most states don't test assets. That shit needs to stop now. You want to steal my money? Prove beyond any reasonable doubt you need it

Until then. Fuck the poor and fuck the leeches.

We all pay taxes and some of those taxes are used for things with which we don't agree; taxes are not stealing.

I'm fine with the TANF program overall, even with individuals like this woman gaming the system. She's at least as much of a human being as you are, perhaps more so.
 
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ch33zw1z

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She was wrong for still collecting, convicted, over and done with. I will never fist bump her death...
 

hardhat

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My wife teaches at a local community college and she just informed me that several of her students just dropped her class upon receiving their several thousand dollar grant form the govt for taking class. The govt gives these people the money and the people jut drop out. They do not have to pay back the money or anything. The only penalty is that they will not receive another grant for the classes they dropped.

Umm.... College financial aid, and especially federal grants, is heavily regulated. Here are just some of the requirements:

Elegibility reviews after every semester. If you don't meet every requirement, you are ineligible. If you withdraw from a course without receiving a grade they reevaluate the amount of grant money received and you must repay any difference.

Maintain a 2.0 or above GPA. That's a C average.
Must complete 2/3 of all attempted courses.
Enrolled at least 1/2 time (6 credit hours).
Not in default on any Federal education loans or owe a repayment on any Federal education grant.
Admitted to an accreditted school as a regular student.
You likely will become inelligible if you are convicted of a drug-related offense (there are limits for any federal grant for those convicted of drug-related offenses).
Must be enrolled in an eligible degree or certificate program. Not all degrees are eligible.
Must meet satisfactory progress standards set by the university toward the degree.
Must not be on academic probation.

And there are lifetime limits, depending on the degree sought, on the total number of credit hours that you can receive financial aid.

Aid is calculated on credit-hour attempted up to the maximum amount for "full time student enrollment", which means 12 credit-hours.

At most, if these people were really trying to cheat the system, they would have had to meet needs-based requirements, be eligible for admission, and could only abuse the system for one semester by flunking, but not withdrawing from the classes. And if they decided to also take loans, the loans start immediately requirement repayment as soon as someone is no longer enrolled and has not earned a degree. So they may be able to cheat the system, but they are giving up any real opportunity they had to better themselves in the process.
 
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Pens1566

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Some posters in this thread are more worthless examples of human beings than the thread's subject.
 

nickbits

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I'm as heartless as they get but she didn't deserve to die. It was only $5500 and she already paid it back.

But she is a good example of how more money won't fix your problems.
 

SheHateMe

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Umm.... College financial aid, and especially federal grants, is heavily regulated. Here are just some of the requirements:

Elegibility reviews after every semester. If you don't meet every requirement, you are ineligible. If you withdraw from a course without receiving a grade they reevaluate the amount of grant money received and you must repay any difference.

Maintain a 2.0 or above GPA. That's a C average.
Must complete 2/3 of all attempted courses.
Enrolled at least 1/2 time (6 credit hours).
Not in default on any Federal education loans or owe a repayment on any Federal education grant.
Admitted to an accreditted school as a regular student.
You likely will become inelligible if you are convicted of a drug-related offense (there are limits for any federal grant for those convicted of drug-related offenses).
Must be enrolled in an eligible degree or certificate program. Not all degrees are eligible.
Must meet satisfactory progress standards set by the university toward the degree.
Must not be on academic probation.

And there are lifetime limits, depending on the degree sought, on the total number of credit hours that you can receive financial aid.

Aid is calculated on credit-hour attempted up to the maximum amount for "full time student enrollment", which means 12 credit-hours.

At most, if these people were really trying to cheat the system, they would have had to meet needs-based requirements, be eligible for admission, and could only abuse the system for one semester by flunking, but not withdrawing from the classes. And if they decided to also take loans, the loans start immediately requirement repayment as soon as someone is no longer enrolled and has not earned a degree. So they may be able to cheat the system, but they are giving up any real opportunity they had to better themselves in the process.

Exactly. His wife doesn't know what shes talking about.

I get 1 or 2 grants from the Government and they only pay out based on your enrollment. One year, I decided to drop a class so I could enroll in another one. After I dropped the class, the OTHER class filled up and I couldnt get anything else. The next day, there was a bill on my account for the difference back. I avoided having to pay by getting an override into the course I wanted to take and they took the charge off.

BTW, Im required to be full-time in order to get these grants. Dropping that class took me down to 9 credits, and they wanted about $900 back.