win 2k3 tweaks for games

leimus

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does anyone here know what tweaks i need to allow win 2k3 to play games? I heard something about win2k3 disabling directx 9 and other features required to install drivers and play games. Thanks for any help.
 

stevewm

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Windows 2003 is a SERVER OS. Not a desktop OS.

DX9 and the like are disabled for just these reasons.

If you want to play games use 2k or XP.


Do you already have Windows 2003? You do realize its not even shipping yet... It has not been offcially launched by Microsoft yet!

I smell warez.....
 

MedicBob

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Why would anyone use a dedicated Windows server OS for gaming? Even with all the tweaks it isn't the same as Windows XP Pro.
 

BlitzRommel

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Who knows. It's not our place to stop someone -- if they want to, then let them. What's the big deal?
 

jhu

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Who knows. It's not our place to stop someone -- if they want to, then let them. What's the big deal?

they're just pointing out the stupidity of it.
 

stash

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Perhaps they want a Xp pro like box but with strong server features, ever thought about that?

No, I haven't anyway. Using a server that may be used as a web server or an Active Directory domain controller to play games and other workstation-type tasks is a really dumb idea. A server is supposed to be dedicated to whatever service it is providing. Checking your email on a server might not take away many CPU cycles, but it does open up the server to all kinds of viruses and worms. On the other hand, playing games *does* take away valuble CPU time.

And if you aren't going to be using a server OS to serve anything, but just for workstation tasks, then that is even more ludicrous. But hey, if you want to be the only guy on the block running Quake III on Windows 2003 Server, don't let me stop you. I'm just saying that it is an incredibly useless exercise.
 

HarryAngel

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Originally posted by: STaSh
Perhaps they want a Xp pro like box but with strong server features, ever thought about that?

No, I haven't anyway. Using a server that may be used as a web server or an Active Directory domain controller to play games and other workstation-type tasks is a really dumb idea. A server is supposed to be dedicated to whatever service it is providing. Checking your email on a server might not take away many CPU cycles, but it does open up the server to all kinds of viruses and worms. On the other hand, playing games *does* take away valuble CPU time.

And if you aren't going to be using a server OS to serve anything, but just for workstation tasks, then that is even more ludicrous. But hey, if you want to be the only guy on the block running Quake III on Windows 2003 Server, don't let me stop you. I'm just saying that it is an incredibly useless exercise.
i see your point but i dont think evryone uses there computers like you do. having server features under the hood dosen't necessery mean that you are running the same box as a server 24/7 while you are gaming. you are assuming something and then making a conclusion about how a majority of users are running there boxes. evrything is not black and white.
 

stash

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So you're telling the majority of users would rather pay $1200 in order to run a server while playing games?

Yes, I realize that there is a free beta available of Win2003. But what happens after the time limit is up?
 

HarryAngel

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Originally posted by: STaSh
So you're telling the majority of users would rather $1200 in order to run a server while playing games?

Yes, I realize that there is a free beta available of Win2003. But what happens after the time limit is up?
hell no, just that i could see some geeks doing that. just as much as you see those liquid-nitrogen overclockers modding there mobos and getting insane overclocks.
 

Shamrock

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What about another scenario where someone wants to use Win2k3 as a dedicated GAMING server, and you HAVE to have DX and/or other features that are required by the dedicated game software?
 

HarryAngel

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Originally posted by: Shamrock
What about another scenario where someone wants to use Win2k3 as a dedicated GAMING server, and you HAVE to have DX and/or other features that are required by the dedicated game software?
yep, i can see more then one reason why some gamers are using 2k03 as there main os.
 

MrChad

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What about another scenario where someone wants to use Win2k3 as a dedicated GAMING server, and you HAVE to have DX and/or other features that are required by the dedicated game software?

Dedicated game servers require DX? Why? They don't need to serve up graphics or sound, just handle network packets.
 

HarryAngel

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Originally posted by: MrChad
What about another scenario where someone wants to use Win2k3 as a dedicated GAMING server, and you HAVE to have DX and/or other features that are required by the dedicated game software?

Dedicated game servers require DX? Why? They don't need to serve up graphics or sound, just handle network packets.
and you HAVE to have DX and/or other features that are required by the dedicated game software? apperantly a situation where the software requires it
 

ProviaFan

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I might run Windows 2003 Server for a web development box where I don't have a spare system to set up as a dedicated server for testing. Either that or just run Linux under VMWare. :)
 

nan0bug

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Win2k3 as a workstation (read: gaming machine) is noticably faster than WinXP because they cut out a lot of the cruft.
 

DaCurryman

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As dumb as this sounds, is there a site that shows the differences between XP Pro and 2003 Server?
 

nan0bug

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If you're interested in running it as a workstation, the only noticable differences are:

It has the old Win2k style "Press ctrl-alt-del to login..." login screen
The installation takes a little longer because you have to enable all the workstation stuff and disable all the server stuff
It comes with DX9 and WMP9
Its missing the games folder (solitaire, etc)
You can't use styleXP, you need to get a patched uxtheme.dll
Its noticably faster

Anything more technical than that I cant help ya
 

batmanuel

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The whole scenario of turning it into a workstation isn't that stupid at all for the hobbiest with an interest in an IT career. It allows you to get the 180 day eval version free from MS, install and run in dual roles. I don't think a lot of people asking about the hacks are going to seriously use it as a REAL server, but rather install it and play around with it in an educational fashion. The hacks to turn into into a workstation are just a way to let you run the server features without having to give up using your machine for everything else (what a bitch it'd be to have to reboot your PC into another OS just to play an MP3 or check out the AT forums).

I've already ordered the eval kit, and I'm planning to turn on all the workstation features so I can learn how it works at my leisure over the next 180 days. It probably won't launch me into a IT career path, but for some high school kid out there who usually doesn't get to play with thousands of dollars worth of server software it could be a different story. We are curious about how it works, but not curious enough to run it on a dedicated machine.

If a few people want to bastardize Server 2003 into a workstation, more power to them. That is what being a hacker is all about, making software and hardware do stuff it was never designed to do. I'm sure there were lots of people back in the day that scoffed in a very similar manner at the prospect of using a mainframe to play "Computer Space."

I just find this whole tone of derision about the project a bit funny. Are the high priests angered at the great unwashed masses playing with their toys?