win 10 forced update causes first casualties...

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Underclocked

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Her system will not boot at all. I think running windows 10 must have caused some sort of stress related failure. I was mistaken, it's a Gateway not a Dell, but that hardly matters. I seriously doubt it is a coincidence that she suffered this failure only after running win10 for a few hours.

I've got it here now. I made a brief attempt to remove the shell (it's supposed to release and open like a book after removing a few screws - it doesn't. I generally don't mess with all-in-ones and this one is going to be no exception.
 

Ramses

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Is this revenge from Intel upon all those folks that thought they were getting a free ride with the super overclockers anniversary chip? :p

Gentle persuasion that they need more cores? lololol..
 

Mushkins

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But MS pushes it. There is ALWAYS going to be faulty 3rd party software and MS faulty updates, in previous versions of windows you could NOT install them, in win10 it forces ALL the updates on you, you have no option NOT to install an update!

You say that like most people actively research every update available before applying it.

People either don't update at all, which is a terrible practice, or they just click "install all." Windows 10 doing it automatically doesn't change a thing about bad updates.
 

Ramses

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You say that like most people actively research every update available before applying it.

People either don't update at all, which is a terrible practice, or they just click "install all." Windows 10 doing it automatically doesn't change a thing about bad updates.

Yep.
The fact is, imo, that like so very many things in this not simple or small world we live in, there are going to be casualties and collateral damage from progress and just general existence or mistakes or plain bad luck. It's going to happen, the best anyone can do is play the odds. Hope or pray that it isn't you or yours and prepare for if it is. And get on with living life.

MS made this decision wisely, playing the numbers you'll see that forcing updates on everyone is preferable to letting the very few that will exercise it wisely have control and letting the masses just not update and create all sorts of havoc. It's not pretty or nice or preferable (to we few) but it's the right decision by the numbers. This is, to me/us, the price we pay for using a consumer oriented OS. If I wanted to really be involved and so forth I'd still be using Linux on my desktop(which I did for a long time happily).
 

TheGardener

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I'm trying decide whether to install KB3064209. I am not at this time upgrading to Windows 10 from Windows 7, nor am I installing the related windows update files at this time.

Is this Intel CPU issue/fix only related to upgrading to Windows 10?
Is this Intel CPU issue/fix only related to overclocking?
If not, how do I know that I have a CPU problem, and which Intel CPU's are affected?

Like most MS bulletins, you don't get much in the way of specifics of what their fixes do.

I've been on Windows 7 for 4.5 years now. I've upgraded to an SSD drive, but everything seems to be operating pretty well. Occasionally Norton NIS tells me that one CPU is running at 100%. I have an Intel i7 cpu Q720 on the laptop. Would this update fix this problem? I've visited the HP site, and they have no file update for any CPU problem related to my laptop.
 

Ramses

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The only real problem chip I've read is the G3258, I doubt you'll see much difference one way or another with an older i7 like that. Windows 8.1 (with a start menu replacement if you prefer) would be a nice upgrade on that laptop I imagine if you aren't short on RAM.