Will your next monitor purchase be an LCD monitor?

NFS4

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I currently use a KDS 17" Trinitron monitor, but it will be my last CRT display. LCD's are coming down in price like crazy. I saw an 18.1" display that Techbargains had a link to for $668.

When I get a new monitor (probably in the next year - 18 months), it will definitely be LCD. Hopefully by then, prices will be even closer to parity with Trinitron CRT's and have increased display resolution.
 

Atomic

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I thought the LCD monitors have only one resolution(native resolution) where everything looks crisp. At all other resolutions it get fuzzy. I'm gonna hold off until that is fixed.
 

StrangeRanger

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LCD's have a long way to go in price vs. performance if you ask me. i'm gonna stick with my sony trinitron for a good long time i think.
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JellyBaby

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Nope, my next tube will be a 21" or 22" AG. Can an LCD match that screen size and still be affordable? I haven't kept up with LCD technology but the old cavat for gamers was that those displays just couldn't refresh fast enough for games.
 

dullard

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I'll stick with CRTs until an LCD comes out with a rounded screen. That will never occur, so I'm stuck with CRT.
 

NFS4

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<< Nope, my next tube will be a 21&quot; or 22&quot; AG. Can an LCD match that screen size and still be affordable? I haven't kept up with LCD technology but the old cavat for gamers was that those displays just couldn't refresh fast enough for games. >>


What's the viewable area on a 21&quot; CRT?? An 18.1&quot; CRT is 18.1&quot;

I've gotten to the point where I can't stand how much space my CRT monitor takes up on my desk. And I don't have the luxury of letting the back-end hang over the edge of my desk.

But I'll wait until a year from now to make my final judgement. But even the LCD's that I have seen up to now look VERY nice. And I rarely play games anymore.
 

Viper GTS

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Possibly. I have a Matrox G450 dualhead being delivered today, so I don't think I'll be playing games anytime soon. I haven't played a game in months anyway.

Dual 18.1&quot; LCD sounds VERY tempting.

Viper GTS
 

TheHorta

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I'm not a gamer in the least bit, not even Solitare, so I am not concerned with how games perform on LCD displays. The current cost/benefit analysis has to be reconciled by each individual, but I will NEVER go back to a CRT if I can't help it.

I am now using a couple of different NEC LCDs - a $5,300 LCD2110 and a $1,000 LCD1830. All I can say is that if I could personally buy any display I wanted, it would be the LCD2110, hands down. I had a Sony GDM-FW900 that I thought I would take to the grave with me, and as CRTs go, it's probably the best one out there. I'm here to tell you now that I no longer use an FW500, because the LCD2110 simply blows it away. Is it worth $5,300? Not if it were my money, but I'm not reviewing it based upon its price. Pricewise, you can buy three FW500s and have money left over for a GF3, but that's irrelevent.

Also, to address the issue of LCDs supporting multiple resolutions - it can't happen, not theorhetically at least. An LCD has a fixed number of crystals, unlike a CRT which simply, for lack of a better word, project an image onto the screen. Here's a quote from my Epinion on the NEC MultiSync LCD1830:

&quot;This is because, unlike a CRT (a regular TV-like monitor), an LCD's resolution is made up of a fixed number of crystals that can not change dynamically. A CRT (Cathode Ray Tube, a 70-year-old technology) actually &quot;projects&quot; (without getting technical) pixels onto your screen. When you try to operate an LCD flat panel at a resolution lower than its &quot;maximum&quot; it has to interpolate (or guess, really) what that resolution should look like and then, while still technically displaying at 1280 x 1024, show you what it thinks that lower resolution looks like. This is why an LCD flat panel looks so crummy in anything but its highest possible resolution. In other words, if you are someone who doesn't like small icons, text, etcetera, then you'll either need to avoid using a flat panel display or get one with a lower display resolution.&quot;

LCDs do have their drawbacks and limitations, which as demand increases and technology advances will rapidly disappear. They're still not at a cost/benefit level where they're a wise investment, as a general rule. In many environments, they're the only solution because they will operate in places where a CRT can not (by an MRI for example). Also, they consume less power, generate less heat, emit no radiation (every CRT emits harmful radiation, TCO or not), take up substantially less desk space, create far less eye strain, are much more portable, can typically &quot;pivot&quot; between portrait and landscape modes, do not distort around the edges, provide more viewable area and just look so much cooler ;-)

So y'all can keep your stone age CRTs and club eachother for raw meat. I'll kick back, sip some Peet's and be cool. <grin>
 

TheHorta

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BTW, dual 18.1&quot; LCDs are incredible. When the LCD2110 that I'm using now is gone, it'll be back to my dual NEC LCD1830s.

They're simply awesome!

There is no substitute, except maybe dual 20&quot;+ LCDs ;-)

CRTs are dinosaurs, and weigh just about as much.
 

duragezic

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Yup, unless their is some new better technology out by then. I am confident I won't be getting a CRT next because it'll probably be 5 years before I get another monitor and that gives plenty of time for LCDs to be better. :)

Unless of course I needed a 2nd computer and a 2nd monitor within say 1 or 2 years, well then maybe still get a CRT but I'd like to have an LCD because of the weight and size. Damn I had to move my 900nf yesterday and I died.
 

SUOrangeman

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One visit to the AT Hot Deals forum could change everyone's mind. :) Oh yeah, that Cali Lotto ticket could change some answers as well. :p

I'm currently using two 17&quot; rounded CRTs at home and two 19&quot; flat CRTs at work. Provided that nothing breaks, I will try to hold out for a great LCD at a great price. Gotta be 18+&quot;, if not that 24&quot; Samsung beauty.

-SUO
 

JellyBaby

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<< What's the viewable area on a 21&quot; CRT?? >>

For the one I'm eyeing, 19.3&quot;.

A space-saving, lightweight tube is nice and some 21&quot;/22&quot;-ers are &quot;short neck&quot; format. Still pretty heavy though. At some point you might move past the old style &quot;desk&quot; and switch to a table. Then you can accommodate just about anything (you could probably fit a 50&quot; TV on mine!).

<<< And I rarely play games anymore. >>

Get an LCD and that might be a permanent predicament.
 

MrBond

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I'd love to replace my 21&quot; monitor with an LCD. That way I wouldn't have to leave the 21&quot; monitor at home and use my 17&quot; at school (17 barly fits on desk). LCDs' are getting better, it's just a matter of time before they get widespread enough to warrent my buying one affordably. $600 buys a lot of textbooks, so until I get out of college, I don't see it happening

 

THutchcraft

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No way. Price Vs. Performance still puts a CRT way ahead in my book. If the price for a larger screen version LCD was about half what it is now, then and only then would it be worth it. I do alot of gaming and like a big screen, with a tight picture. Neither of which is cost effective with an LCD at this point.
 

Nack

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Yep, my next monitor purchase will be an LCD, but that won't be for quite a while... ;)

I'll wait until the new IBM $22,000 monitor sells for $1500 (should be two or three years at most, don't ya think?) and buy one at a 30% off sale somewhere.

Nack
 

frankroh

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I'm never going back to CRT. So much easier to move around, especially with a pnuematic arm. The latest LCDs have greatly improved refresh speed so even fast paced FPS games are doable. UT's no problem on my Dell 1701FP LCD. Also by using digital connection like DVI-i, you get crystal clear imanges and chars, whereas analog CRTs (and analog LCDs) are perceptable to ghosting and other anomalies.

TheHorta forgot to mention glare is not a problem at all on LCDs (no more repositioning CRTs away from sunlight and interior lighting.)

I bought my 1701FP (17&quot; LCD but 18&quot; by CRT's silly measurement standard) for $720 shipped from Dell: 3year warranty, DVI-i input, and one-touch adjustment.

Besides, I'm too old to be carrying around 40lb 19&quot; monitors. :D

 

ProviaFan

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My next monitor will probably be a 17 inch CRT to replace the one I have now that is failing. But after that I plan to get a LCD as soon as I can afford one :D
 

JackBurton

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Man, that Sony SDM-M81/B is pretty damn slick looking. The MAIN thing I look at is the viewing angle. It has a pretty sweet 160 degree viewing angle which I've seen first hand and it is awesome. I HATE those laptop screens that your head has to be in a certain place or else the picture gets all jacked up. I also take a look at res and it supports a nice 1280x1024 native resolution (just the res I like :)). I think this will be my next monitor. I might even run dual monitor setups with my SOny G500 (CRT) and the Sony SDM-M81/B (LCD). ;)
 

Vegito

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I have a nice quad lcd 18.1 setup.. it's good but not good for games.. my next set will be those 40&quot; plasma screens.. heheh..
 

Macro2

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Brandon,
You ask a question you have already answered...
Sounds like you have already made up your mind. Then you say you're 12-18 months out?
You also act like $700 for a monitor is pocket change. What ARE these kids coming to, anyway? LOL

I have gone through a couple LCDs...they had a nasty habit of developing bad pixels.
My next monitor purchase will be a CRT. 12-18 months is way to far out to worry about. Ask again in a year...

Mac
 

Sugadaddy

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I was plannning on getting a 21&quot; flat CRT in the next few months, but I'm hesitating now that I saw how much the LCDs have come down in price. I'll probably still get the CRT though, unless 20&quot; LCDs come down in price. Right now, it seems like only the 17&quot; and some 18&quot; are getting cheaper. You have to remember a 18&quot; LCD is still equivalent to a 19&quot; CRT, which I currently have, so I don't think it would feel like a big upgrade.