Probably will buy a new system from Dell right when it comes out for the new MediaCenter features. My other systems will probably get upgraded via Action Pack and MSDN subscriptions whenever.
Does MSDN cover desktop OS licensing? I thought the only production licensing it covered was Office and VS?
I've got an MSDN subscription but havent looked to closly into the desktop licensing, I've got volume licensing for my desktop/laptop...
Maybe you're right. We discontinued our MSDN sub years ago and I can't remember...just have Action Pack subs now. I think we're renewing this year though, that's why I mentioned it.
I dont know that I would call that a dumb question. My sig has a similar "theme" but I dont work for MSFT
Anyways I think this is the trolling part Stash was refering to; not the question of whether or not he works for MSFT.
I've been running build 5270 since it was released (MSDN Subscriber). Are the later builds really that much different? I thought 5270 was about 90% "feature complete", and the only major item missing was the sidebar...could be wrong, though.
As for the original question, I will definitely upgrade when it comes out. It's certainly better than XP, especially when you consider all of the changes under the hood (much improved network and audio stacks, and WinFX).
Yes, I'll probably pick it up as soon as I can just to try it out...I'll be able to get it at a ridiculously cheap price through my university
Of course I'm going to get Vista when it comes out. I really need those DRM features, so Microsoft can control what I do.
I'll wait until SP1 for Vista comes out before I'll jump to it. By that time I'll have a decent rig to support it. The very first releases of MS OS's tends to have more holes in the software than actual working code.
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I'll be looking at the MCE version of it. If I can get an evaluation version, and I like it, I'll buy it, like I did with MCE05. I'll keep running XP Pro on my main rig for a while though, unless Vista Pro is significantly better. Linux is a nice diversion, but I can't be bothered to learn it's complications. I also don't like the amaturish looks of the window makers and GUIs, but that's not for this thread.
Will Vista have backwards compatibility with 32bit apps or is it strickly 64bit only?(I imagine this has been asked many times before but ?) I may get this if the 64bit part of it shows significant performance/feature benefits over 32bit OS/apps. Probably wait a bit after release for some of the kinks to get worked out.
It will thunk back to 32 just like 64bit XP does. Maintaining backwards 32bit compatibility is really not a difficult thing. I wouldn't expect any problems.
5270 is still pretty far from feature complete. Not sure of the percentage.
Yes the networking stack is NUTS! Very fast. It has been clocked at 40x as fast as XP but those are in very specific circumstances between two Vista boxes running native apps that leverage the new network stack. For day to day, on a modern machine you should still be able to notice some speed improvements simply surfing the web.
The networking is a total rewrite. It's native IPv6 with IPv4 as a component (instead of the other way around in NT 5.x)
I'll be Vista on day one myself. As soon as the company store carries copies all my family will be too. The company store tends to lag sometimes since they make sure customers are being well supplied before they offer to employees.
MS is supporting drm so you will be able to enjoy the new HD dvd's. If they didnt you wouldnt be able to play them. Its not their fault.
I wish Anandtech would do an article on this so these idiotic posts would stop.
I plan on getting vista btw.
I had also heard that 5270 was "nearly feature complete" (was never given a percentage) in the beta chats. Though I suppose "nearly" could be interpreted a lot of ways...
"Must have" for me!
If I don't get it free from beta testing it, then
I will get it free under a license from work, else
Will purchase it.
If I don't get it free from beta testing it, then
I will get it free under a license from work, else
Will purchase it.
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I'll admit this is the first I'm hearing of this improved stack but what you've stated sounds a little tgtbt. If a vista app is beating an xp app in network usage by 40x (hell, even 4x) the bigger issue is why something on xp was failing to use the vast majority of available bandwidth. Especially if you're claiming that the bottleneck is one of the most fundamentally important pieces of any modern operating system instead of just poor application programming.
And improved web browsing? The time the data spends in the kernel is obviously minute compared to the time it spends out on the network so I can't see any improvements being noticeable unless it's vista running on the backbone routers out there. I'd bet browser rendering time is longer than kernel network handling.
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If what he meant by his sarcasm was that he's actually planning on abandoning windows in favour of another platform (as many seem intent on doing, we'll have to see how many actually succeed), then his point was reasonable. Given the knowledge that you couldn't watch the highest quality without microsoft support, it is still possible to prefer that microsoft didn't support the drm.
In retrospect, think of the free marketing hype microsoft could have gotten if they'd made a show of prentending to fight the media industry on behalf of their customer's rights.
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