Will Windows 9 Bring Back the Start Menu

[mikeymikec]

Will the Start Screen get replaced in favor of the start menu?

IMO, No. MS will make a number of concessions (as I understand it, full-screen apps will have an X in the corner in Win81 Update 1 - about time too), but they won't go for a humiliating U-turn.

Even a Start menu option would be a surprisingly large concession, despite that is what MS should have done with Win8 RTM IMO.

Next up, lose the MS account fetish (I don't mind the idea of a 'unified login' across a range of MS services, but the Windows login being handled by an MS account is the worst idea on the planet for security reasons), for example there simply isn't any need for an MS account login on the Mail app for a non-MS e-mail account to be set up. It makes no sense.

I think they should just try to make the next version of windows the version that everyone wants.

You cannot please everyone all of the time.

 

[PingSpike]

I agree with mikeymikec. I think there will be a couple tweaks to say they did something but project use-our-desktop-install-base-to-try-to-bootstrap-our-mobile-offerings-into-relevance will continue. At least for one more iteration.

There's an outside chance they'll introduce an entirely new touch centric UI and completely abandon Metro. They do that pretty often these days.

 

[Muse]

I've never used Windows 8, but I hate the start menu. Any program I want repeat access to, I copy the shortcut and paste it into a folder that I can quick-access from my taskbar or desktop. In that folder I have a few subfolders for categorizing, e.g. Audio, Video, security. It's so much easier and quicker than the damned Start Menu.

 

[Muse]

You cannot please everyone all of the time.

Sure you can, you just kill the dissenters.

 

[Morbus]

Of course you can please everyone. It's called Windows 7.

 

[Mem]

Of course you can please everyone. It's called Windows 7.

If Win7 was that great all XP users would have upgraded,people can be fussy sometimes and have different opinons on what's best for them.

 

[ithehappy]

Of course you can please everyone. It's called Windows 7.

This.

I just broke the Windows 8 DVD last week, so that I won't be able to install it again.

 

[ascalice]

Hint...read the 1 word under the OPs name :smack:.

 

[denis280]

I don't Care about it.We have to go with the product they will come out with.maybe it will have a start menu.or a mix of xp with 8.or Worst Vista and Me

 

[mikeymikec]

If Win7 was that great all XP users would have upgraded,people can be fussy sometimes and have different opinons on what's best for them.

Nope, because they have / had something that worked for them and didn't feel an overwhelming urge to upgrade.

It's not like any version of Windows was a compelling upgrade compared to the immediately previous version either (ignoring the Windows 9x line, which we're going to have to come up with a new name for if MS carry on the way they've been going with Win8x).

 

[Mem]

Nope, because they have / had something that worked for them and didn't feel an overwhelming urge to upgrade.

It's not like any version of Windows was a compelling upgrade compared to the immediately previous version either (ignoring the Windows 9x line, which we're going to have to come up with a new name for if MS carry on the way they've been going with Win8x).

That was my point,what they feel is best for them .

 

[mikeymikec]

That was my point,what they feel is best for them .

I was disputing the validity of your "if Win7 was all that great" comment. I'm pretty sure that Win7 out of all the NTx range experienced the fastest and most widespread adoption, which IMO speaks volumes.

 

[Mem]

I was disputing the validity of your "if Win7 was all that great" comment. I'm pretty sure that Win7 out of all the NTx range experienced the fastest and most widespread adoption, which IMO speaks volumes.

You misunderstand what I meant on that part, some users think XP is great and others think Linux is great,personally Win7 is ok but no such thing as a great OS IMHO,every one has a flaw or two,that's my point.

I prefer Linux in many ways to Windows but can still see flaws in every OS you can name.

Bottomline we all have different opinions that's my point,and those XP users must find something great about XP not to be using Win7 ,again its all relative also ironically XP still has largest usage world wide but does that mean its the best or great ,again it's down to the user you ask,one man's poisons is another man's medicine etc...

 

[Morbus]

If Win7 was that great all XP users would have upgraded,people can be fussy sometimes and have different opinons on what's best for them.

Oh, you can't really count XP users when you say "please everyone". It's like saying that oxygen doesn't please everyone because there was some bloke in my town that suffocated to death because he had a quarrel with oxygen...

This.

I just broke the Windows 8 DVD last week, so that I won't be able to install it again.

Good man. Hope you burned your key as well, cause that's really where your Windows 8 is, not the DVD.

 

[mikeymikec]

@ Mem

Upgrading Windows costs money. If a user is pretty much fine with what they've got, then they're not going to upgrade. This is not necessarily a reflection of how flawed either OS is.

@ ithehappy

A bit pointless IMO. I was pretty sure that I wouldn't end up using 10 Vista licences that I had, but I did. My wife likes it, for example. Provided that the hardware is up for it and regular use of sleep mode is viable, it's a perfectly viable OS.

Win8, once it receives multiple updates is probably quite usable too (as far as the average user is concerned). This morning I showed a customer how she could have closed a full-screen app on the Win8 laptop she just purchased. She (IMO, rightly) had a look on her face that said "how was I supposed to figure that out for myself?". IIRC, I found out how to properly close a Win8 app thanks to YouTube. Since I customised the hell out of it, she's quite happy with the result.

 

[Mem]

Oh, you can't really count XP users when you say "please everyone". It's like saying that oxygen doesn't please everyone because there was some bloke in my town that suffocated to death because he had a quarrel with oxygen...



Good man. Hope you burned your key as well, cause that's really where your Windows 8 is, not the DVD.

You know PC users come in all tastes and sizes,XP users are part of that .

 

[Mem]

@ Mem

Upgrading Windows costs money. If a user is pretty much fine with what they've got, then they're not going to upgrade. This is not necessarily a reflection of how flawed either OS is.

First no OS is perfect as we all know,as to XP well I upgraded for nothing its called Linux(I saw XP coming to end of life and decided to do something about it and also wanted improved security on my previous XP PC),yes I did this about four years ago ,as you know there are always options but end of the day it's down to the user in question if they think it's worth it or not regardless of cost or OS they are thinking of using.


XP has many flaws but fact is a lot of XP users are comfortable with an old OS that they know and also compatible with their software.

 

[xantub]

Reading these comments makes me smile. Up to some 4 or so months ago I would have written the same comments myself. I hated Windows 8, I tried it, didn't like it at all. Every thread I saw I would post my discontent.

Then the company put Windows 8 in my computer. Luckily 8.1 was already out, so I upgraded to 8.1, changed boot to desktop, installed the free Classic Start, and I don't miss Windows 7 at all. I don't see the Metro or start screen ever, it really works just like W7 except that it boots faster. So last laptop I bought for me, came with Windows 8 and I'm ok with that (after repeating the same steps of course).

 

[blankslate]

If Win7 was that great all XP users would have upgraded

Not true, there are plenty of non-technical people who probably think of their computer as just another piece of old school electronics (like a tv or stereo) and aren't even really aware that installing a newer OS on a computer can be an option.

Some of those people are probably on fixed incomes and expected the computer to be fine as long as nothing broke down in the machine and really have a hard time justifying buying another computer and might not have a person they can turn to for the Linux option if their machine isn't up to handling a newer OS.

I think that most people who haven't upgraded to Win7 fall into the above example or are running software that isn't compatible with anything newer than XP


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