Will this graphics card max Skyrim?

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lehtv

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wow. the guy I replied to was talking about HIGHEST settings. jeez, please pay attention to the points I am trying to make.

I'm pretty sure he didn't mean "highest settings on a 5 year old video card". You're really not getting it
 

toyota

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I'm pretty sure he didn't mean "highest settings on a 5 year old video card". You're really not getting it
I have tried to explain this yet you just do not get it.


lets try again and see if you can get what I am saying this time. he was saying that high cards can run console ports on the highest settings. that statement has been made for years now because consoles have not changed. the fact is the ports of some of these games have gotten more graphically demanding. heck some are WAY more demanding then most previous games. Dragon Age 2 is way more demanding than the first game. FEAR 3 is way more demanding than FEAR 2. so basically a person that said that years ago would have been thinking high end cards at the time should be able to run console ports on highest settings until we get new consoles. well they were wrong no weren't they.

now today he is saying the same thing people did a few years ago when even right now my gtx570 cannot max every setting in a couple of ports. a gtx570 is almost twice as fast as cards were a few years ago so again people were wrong then and even wrong now for a couple of ports. so there is a chance that other ports coming out soon could really tax current high end cards. you cant just say that a high end card can max a game out because its a console port. you never know until the game comes out.

now as for just Skyrim, I bet it will be way more demanding than Fallout 3/New Vegas but probably will not push the current high end hardware too hard.
 
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lehtv

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No, there's no particular reason to assume that

a person that said that years ago would have been thinking high end cards at the time should be able to run console ports on highest settings until we get new consoles

The optimization of console games improves constantly, and so the complexity and quality of the graphics improves despite using the same hardware. This of course doesn't mean they will be better optimized for PC as well; instead it means PC users will need better hardware.

Regardless, your list of games included only two titles that you said you can't max out on a current high-end card without fps dropping to 50 sometimes. Two titles are hardly enough to justify the claim that

PLENTY of ports that need a beefy gpu to play on highest settings.

That's been the point you're not getting.

And this is still forgetting the fact that you're also using different standards for what counts as playable on console and PC. Consoles run at 30fps. If you applied the same standard of 30fps to both, suddenly you could easily max out every console port on even a midrange card!
 

taltamir

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Will this graphics card max Skyrim?

My magic eight ball says...

What makes you think we can predict the future? How about you wait until skyrim actually comes out and then ask.

The optimization of console games improves constantly, and so the complexity and quality of the graphics improves despite using the same hardware

the only "optimization" I see is that they allow the FPS to drop ever lower. Giving you annoying unavoidable stutter.
There is only so much you can eke out of a system with the vaunted magical software optimization. Not to mention PCs DO enjoy optimization from their hardware vendors (nvidia and AMD driver improvements) and companies only have so much to spend on developing a title for a particular console.
 
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Stuka87

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since people keep claiming this stuff for years so I am talking about console ports that cannot be maxed on my previous gtx260. here are just a few. heck for some of these I have to turn down some settings and go without any AA and still cannot get 60 fps for an average. even my gtx570 cannot max GTA 4 or Red Faction Armageddon and stay above 50 fps the whole time and thats without AA.

Red Faction Guerrilla
Red Faction Armageddon
Splinter Cell Conviction
GTA 4
Ghostbusters
Dragon Age 2
FEAR 3
Mafia 2

True, those games do require more hardware to run at 60fps than some others. The consoles have been dropping their framerates and resolutions in order to run games with higher end graphics. While PC players expect the same 60fps@1080P. So our hardware requirements have gone up, as games have gotten more demanding on hardware. The console hardware has not changed, which is why they can barely manage 30fps on some of these games.

Skyrim however is not running a newer engine. Its the gamebryo engine, which is ancient. I could see CPU being an issue, but I doubt GPU will be an issue at all provided you dont have a 4 year old card.
 

toyota

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True, those games do require more hardware to run at 60fps than some others. The consoles have been dropping their framerates and resolutions in order to run games with higher end graphics. While PC players expect the same 60fps@1080P. So our hardware requirements have gone up, as games have gotten more demanding on hardware. The console hardware has not changed, which is why they can barely manage 30fps on some of these games.

Skyrim however is not running a newer engine. Its the gamebryo engine, which is ancient. I could see CPU being an issue, but I doubt GPU will be an issue at all provided you dont have a 4 year old card.
Skyrim will use the all new Creation Engine not the old Gamebryo.
 
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Stuka87

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The Creation engine is Gamebryo based. Highly modified yes, but not an entirely new engine. This is according to Tom Howard (game director).

However I agree that we can't base how it will run off the old gamebryo engine. So, we will have to wait and see. But looking at the system requirements that they released, I doubt it will require much more. Heck, maybe they made some decent optimizations to the engine.

We will just have to wait and see :)
 

toyota

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The Creation engine is Gamebryo based. Highly modified yes, but not an entirely new engine. This is according to Tom Howard (game director).

However I agree that we can't base how it will run off the old gamebryo engine. So, we will have to wait and see. But looking at the system requirements that they released, I doubt it will require much more. Heck, maybe they made some decent optimizations to the engine.

We will just have to wait and see :)
I agree this probably will not be too demanding on highest settings but yeah we never can tell. just take a gander at what some games put in their system requirements and you will be shocked though. for example Far Cry 2 has a P4 and 6800 for its minimum requirements and just an 8600gts listed in their recommended requirements. having played that game on an 8600gt at just 1024x768, I would certainly list it as a minimum card instead.