Will there ever be a GTX 495 (or comparable Nvidia dual-GPU card)?

Wag

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I own a single GTX 295 and it's getting a bit long-in the tooth at this point. I see no need to upgrade to any other product at the moment, but since I purchased my Dell u2711 a single GTX 495 is barely getting by for some of the newer games (Q9550 @ 3.4GHz). Unfortunately I have a nForce based motherboard and am sort of locked in to Nvidia based cards (especially if I want to go SLI).

A decent dual-GPU based card from Nvidia would probably be a lock for me at this point (maybe 2 cards).
 

Lonyo

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It would probably be the GF104x2 if anything. There's no reason to expect a dual GF100 given its characteristics.
But since the GF104 hasn't launched yet (launches tomorrow), there's little surprise that there's no news about a dual GPU card. But, maybe if there is anything to say, it might get said tomorrow.
 

Grooveriding

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Probably never. Unless they can make a dual-gpu card of a GTX 470 or better core, they won't do it. No sense in releasing one unless it is faster than a 5970.
 

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No news of a dual chip card, no announcements, nothing in the roadmap. Until any evidence turns up to show otherwise, the answer is no.
 

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Probably never. Unless they can make a dual-gpu card of a GTX 470 or better core, they won't do it. No sense in releasing one unless it is faster than a 5970.

Well there are a few variables to consider.
1) Fermi scales better with SLI than crossfire.
2) Fermi scales slightly better with core/shader mhz increases than 5800's (most likely due to fermi having lower fillrates than 5800's)
3) GF104's fully unlocked chip is 384 shader parts. If a 384 shader, 700mhz clocked part can outperform a 5850 and keep draw power low enough to make a dual card out of, SLI's better scaling may help it match/surpass an hd5970.
4) Time is against Nvidia in releasing a dual GPU part with their current chips. ATI is soon to release the 6x00 cards --- but then again, who knows if the TDP of the 6x00 cards will be low enough to make a dual card; and I highly, highly doubt ATI can top 5970 performance with their next gen cards being on the same node process.

I'm guessing they'll release a a gtx490, or 495 or whatever with two full unlocked GF104 cores. But I think Nvidia wants to clear out GF100 stock first, because 2 GF104 unlocked cores could be cheaper to make and sell than a gtx480 and will perform better than it. On the same note, I'm also guessing Fermi II will be launched this fall ---sooner than later, akin to what Nvidia did with the GeforceFX series (5800 --> 5900).
 
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Grooveriding

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Well there are a few variables to consider.
1) Fermi scales better with SLI than crossfire.
2) Fermi scales slightly better with core/shader mhz increases than 5800's (most likely due to fermi having lower fillrates than 5800's)
3) GF104's fully unlocked chip is 384 shader parts. If a 384 shader, 700mhz clocked part can outperform a 5850 and keep draw power low enough to make a dual card out of, SLI's better scaling may help it match/surpass an hd5970.
4) Time is against Nvidia in releasing a dual GPU part with their current chips. ATI is soon to release the 6x00 cards --- but then again, who knows if the TDP of the 6x00 cards will be low enough to make a dual card; and I highly, highly doubt ATI can top 5970 performance with their next gen cards being on the same node process.

I'm guessing they'll release a a gtx490, or 495 or whatever with two full unlocked GF104 cores. But I think Nvidia wants to clear out GF100 stock first, because 2 GF104 unlocked cores could be cheaper to make and sell than a gtx480 and will perform better than it. On the same note, I'm also guessing Fermi II will be launched this fall ---sooner than later, akin to what Nvidia did with the GeforceFX series (5800 --> 5900).


I agree on the SLI scaling point, which is part of why I switched from 5870 CF to 480 SLI, that and I got an amazing deal.

SLI scaling is about the only good thing about Fermi :p

336 or 384 cores, I just don't see the 460 being as fast as a 470. I don't think we will see any dual gpu this round from nvidia. By the time they can bring it to market, there will already be new cards from ATI most likely. It just doesn't make sense.

I think they need to pick up the pieces from Fermi's failure and come back with a fresh release of an update to Fermi, and expedite the release to coincide with the release of ATI's upcoming NI/SI. If that can execute on that, they will be back in the ballgame.
 

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For the guy with the 295 that is good enough play your games @ 1920 but play games that you mentioned and Crysis and BF2 and MW2 then you have to take the res down to 1600x900 and its blistering fast and smooth.

I think the 295 and those similar should stay put and not spend a dime on nvidia or ATI at this moment, unless you dont have a video card,, duh,,, hehe,,

I think I will sum it up, imo ATI kicked nvidias butt. period. They put the next gen card on a single PCB. nVidia sat there and computed bs about tri sli ing 3 480's lol.

Ive seen the benchmarks ATI blows nvidia away. When I buy a card I always buy that generations best card. No matter how much. ASUS x800 xt pe $597 dollars delivered to the door in summer of 2004. Dec 2007 8800 GT with OCing top card for that gen pretty much..

OT: Yall notice how the 5970 was 800 dollars now its like 700. Every 2 months the price drops 30 buckaroo's. In twenty months we can afford this LOL
 

Wag

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I assume you're addressing me Tweakboy, but I never stated which games I played nor the resolution either. The Dell u2711 is a 27" display with a native resolution of 2560x1440, so that would be the resolution I would expect to play games at. A single GTX 295 on my setup is just squeaking by, if a bit slow at that resolution. An upgrade could definitely be useful at this point, but as I stated I have an nForce based motherboard so I am sort of locked into nvidia based cards, especially if I want to go SLI in the near future.
 

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Too bad you didn't Ebay it before the 400 series came out. I got $450 for mine so 470 SLI was a cheap upgrade for the performance increase.