Why will 24C not work well for games?I wanted an 4 mem-channel 16 core but it seems the leaks only show 24 cores and up.
16 core I can ALSO use for games but 24 cores, I don't think that will work well?
Buying to disable 8 cores isn't really acceptable.
I will sell you a 1950x 16 core really cheap after they come out with threadripper3. I have 5 to upgrade !I wanted an 4 mem-channel 16 core but it seems the leaks only show 24 cores and up.
16 core I can ALSO use for games but 24 cores, I don't think that will work well?
Buying to disable 8 cores isn't really acceptable.
I would be very surprised if ti does not have a 16 core version. Even a 12 core would not surprise me as well.
From what Videocardz said there's only a 24 core and a 32 core. A 48 core, maybe on a different socket is coming in January.
That's what Ryzen is for.
I suspect that the 48 and eventual 64c models (maybe wait for Zen 3 for that) are going to be WX models using the WRX80 8 memory lane chipset rumored awhile back. So will basically have some platform limitations but basically be SP Epyc's.From what Videocardz said there's only a 24 core and a 32 core. A 48 core, maybe on a different socket is coming in January.
That's what Ryzen is for.
I would be very surprised if ti does not have a 16 core version.
AM4 has fewer memory channels and less PCIe lanes to start. Sometimes you need more of one than the other depending on usage.
Current threadripper has a 8 core chip, 1900x, as well as the 2000 desktop chips. And the 2920x is a 12 core chip similar to the currnet 3000 series desktop.
AM4 has fewer memory channels and less PCIe lanes to start. Sometimes you need more of one than the other depending on usage.
Current threadripper has a 8 core chip, 1900x, as well as the 2000 desktop chips. And the 2920x is a 12 core chip similar to the currnet 3000 series desktop.
AMD said multiple times earlier this year that the low core-count Threadrippers didn't sell. You won't see Threadrippers with the same or even similar core count this year. You should fully expect 24 cores and up only.
There was a 16C Castle Peak Threadripper on the September product master, though:
CPK DT Ryzen Threadripper 16C 280W SP3R3
This doesn't guarantee that they'll launch a 16C Threadripper but it's possible.
280w for a 16c? good grief!!
If you want a 16c threadripper 3000 just get Epyc Rome which only runs at 155w and are also overclockable, but would not even come close to hitting that 280w mark.
Plus it would be like half the cost of threadripper 3000 im guessing.
I dont even think there are coolers out there that can even cool 280w reasonably.
Maybe need something like a double or triple thick 360mm or 420mm rad just to keep these stinking monsters cool.
I hope that 280w for the 16c is a typo or an error because I was looking forward to purchasing a 16c threadripper 3000 if there was ever gonna be a 16c part and at a reasonable price that is.
I guess we'll know more here shorlty, like some time tomorrow right??
Just let all 24 cores work. It should not cause any problems.So if we assume there is no 16 core 4 channel version anytime soon.
Do you think the 24 core version can be configured (before boot) to work equally like an 3950X? (VR/games, simulations, video editing)
If it are 3 * 8 core dies then basically you have to disable 1 die to get the same effect, obviously if these are 'bad' 32 cores (4 dies) then there will be no working 8 core die present, only 6 cores.
So if we assume there is no 16 core 4 channel version anytime soon.
Do you think the 24 core version can be configured (before boot) to work equally like an 3950X? (VR/games, simulations, video editing)
If it are 3 * 8 core dies then basically you have to disable 1 die to get the same effect, obviously if these are 'bad' 32 cores (4 dies) then there will be no working 8 core die present, only 6 cores.
I dont know if thats gonna be true this time around for an 280w cpu.Once you get out of the ideal frequency range, power consumption starts going up dramatically. EPYC 7302P only has a 3Ghz base and 3.3Ghz turbo in that 155 Watt TDP. While that performance is great for power/performance balance in the Datacenter, those clocks are not desirable in the HEDT market, where users typically only have 1 system, not a rack full, and they want that system to run as absolutely fast as possible. Threadripper 2's 2950X was a 3.5Ghz base and 4.4 Turbo for it's 180 Watt TDP.
My belief is that if there really is a 280 Watt TDP 16 Core Threadripper, they'll use the power budget to keep clocks around low 4Ghz All-core, 4.7 Ghz Boost to go up against the 14 core, 250W TDP i9-9990XE.
As for cooling, the Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3 had no issues keeping the 2970WX below 70C in high load testing, and that's with a 250 Watt TDP. I imagine it will still be able to keep up with a 280 Watt TDP as well.
Specs | Config | Type | CPU | Price $ | ‘Profit’ over cheaper |
4 core / 4 thread | 1 chip | L | Ryzen 3 1200 | $109 | 0$ |
4 core / 8 thread | 1 chip | L | Ryzen 5 1400 | $169 | 60$ |
6 core / 12 thread | 1 chip | M | Ryzen 5 1600 | $219 | 110$ |
8 core / 16 thread | 1 chip | H | Ryzen 7 1700 | $329 | 220$ |
8 core / 16 thread | 1 chip | H | Ryzen 7 1700X | $399 | 290$ |
Specs | Config | Type | CPU | Price $ | ‘Profit’ over cheaper |
6 core / 12 thread | 2 chip | M | Ryzen 5 3600 | $199 | 0$ |
8 core / 16 thread | 2 chip | H | Ryzen 7 3700X | $329 | 130$ |
8 core / 16 thread | 2 chip | H | Ryzen 7 3800X | $399 | 200$ |
12 core / 24 thread | 3 chip | M | Ryzen 9 3900X | $499 | 300$ |
16 core / 32 thread | 3 chip | H | Ryzen 9 3950X | $749 | 550$ |
Specs | Config | Type | CPU | Price $ | ‘Profit’ over cheaper |
6 core / 12 thread | 2 chip | M | Ryzen 5 3600 | $199 | 0$ |
4 core / 4 thread | 2 chip | L | Ryzen 3 3200 | $109 | -90$ |
Specs | Config | Type | CPU | Price $ | ‘Profit’ over cheaper |
6 core / 12 thread | 2 chip | M | Ryzen 5 3600 | $199 | 0$ |
8 core / 16 thread | 3 chip | L | Ryzen 7 3750 | $379 | 180$ |
16 core / 32 thread | 5 chip | L | ‘TR 3955X’ | $599 | 400$ |
24 core / 48 thread | 5 chip | M | TR 3960X | ‘$999’ | 800$ |
32 core / 64 thread | 9 chip | L | ‘TR 3975X’ | $1400 | 1201$ |
32 core / 64 thread | 9 chip | L | EPYC 7452 | $2025 | 1826$ |
The cache will be spread over 3 dies and the average clock will be lower.Because of the design of Zen 2 with an I/O die that manages the memory you shouldn't need to disable chiplets, as it shouldn't cause the problems that impacted the previous Threadripper designs.