If my memory serves me correctly Iran has a few squadrons of F-14 tomcats as well as F-4 Phantoms and F-5 Tigers and various soviet types MIG 15 to 29 , Iran was the only country that Grumman exported the F-14 too, abiet very out dated F-14A's with outdated weapon systems, I'm not sure what missle systems are operated from them but likely to be soviet as the Sparrow and Pheonix systems were not supplied. Some how I think the US Airforce and Navy could over come Irans airforce fairly easily, the US would end up fighting a war that would be similar to the current Iraq scenario, this assumes that Iran has no Nuclear weapons, which I'm sure is the case, it's hard to trust a country that had to bullshit it's way in to starting a war, hopefully the Australian government will have enougth brains not to get involved this time, but as history will show, the Australian government isn't to bright!
Well considering that you are saying 'Invading Iran will cause WW III.' which itself is absolutely hilarious, how is this anyway worthy or related enough to WW1 or WW2 to be called WW3? How is it even remotely on the same scale? If we are using your scale then WW3 has already happened.
But I guess Iran gets a special pass, huh?
All hail Iran, the road to WW3!
Wow...OK, so please explain how your 'definite' little scenario involving a US invasion of Iran constitues the first world war since WW2.
I already listed numerous countries that could be involved.
Syria, Lebanon, Israel, U.S, Iraq, Afghanistan. Possibly Saudi Arabia/Egypt. Who knows what would happen to govts. in the region if they just sat there.
That does not classify a world war?
You seem to forget Iran is a large Muslim country. What would be the reason to attack Iran? We attacked Afghanistan for Osama. We attacked Iraq because of Saddam who attacked his neighbors in the past. We cannot link these claims to Iran. An attack on Iran will be an attack on Muslims by many in the region. Attack them because they are building nuclear sites? Good luck convincing Muslims in the region to do nothing.
Attack them because of their Islamic govt.? Try telling that to the people of the M.E who believe in Islam.
Not as 'WWIII' because then that would have already happened.
I think a better title would be 'The world's superpower versus a few turds'
Yeah, everyone loves Iran and will stand up to the world's superpower just to stand up with Iran.
A true Islamic govt. wouldn't be so corrupt and abusive towards its own people. These so-called Islamic govts. in the Mid East are nothing but a farce. These are evil, power seeking men who cloak themselves in religion
Also, tell me why would Syria and Lebanon and Afghanistan and Egypt and Saudi Arabia get involved if we attack Iran? Even if Syria gets involved, it would take 1 minute to destroy the Syrian military.
Iran and Iraq fought for 8 years, did that spark a WW3? America attacked and destroyed Saddam's forces twice, did that spark WW3?
Also, let me make it clear: The Shahab missle, the most important missle in Iran's inventory, is basically a upgraded Soviet era scud missle. There is a new version of the Shahab based on the N Korean missle.
"I think a better title would be 'The world's superpower versus a few turds'"
Grow up?
Educate yourself about the region and their religion if you wish to have a discussion about it instead of expressing opinions that are not based on any information.
Saddam invaded an Arab nation (Kuwait). The Arabs were united with the U.S because of it. Now the situation has turned into the people thinking the U.S is after Muslims.
The Saudi govt. and the Egypt govt. are facing a growing demand for change. These Islamic govts. are corrupt, but so is the entire M.E. The people of Egypt/Saudi Arabia are already yelling at their govts. for letting Israel "attack" Palestinians. They keep demanding that the govts. do something about it.
Lebanon will get involved because Hezbollah is stationed there. They are "silent" right now. They take orders from who? Iran? Syria? If they attack Israel then Israel will have to attack them and possibly end up attacking Syrian forces.
If Israel attacks Syria how will Egypt/S.A take that news?
How is a true Islamic regime going to work? I doubt it will ever work the way the people would want. Religious govts. = EVIL
I don't know exactly how it would play out but it doesn't hurt to guess.
Egypt and Israel have been warming up recently, and there is a reason for that. Egypt does not want to get into a arms race with Israel so it wants to keep at peace with that nation. Israel has conducted several air raids on the terrorist positions in Lebanon over the years.
But really, the hezbollah have been attacking Israel all along, they fire rockets in small numbers into the farms near the border from time to time. Those katuysha's can hit Tel Aviv, so it does pose a pretty significant risk to Israel. Israel will retalliate with more air strikes, but again, I dont see WW3
Lebanon is basically Syria, since Syria controls major aspects of that nation. I don't think Syria wants to anger the US any further than it already has. The "boy" Assad has very little maneuvering room, he knows not to agitate the US any further.
You really think the govts. of SA and Egypt will suddenly collapse once a US-Iran war starts? Even if they do, I dont see them bracing up for a "WW3".
Dont forget, hezbollah is the biggest, best funded, best trained terrorist organization in the world. Just wanted to mention that.
if anything happens i think it will be more of what we have heard rumblings of over there right now. smaller scale, subdued and mostly covert.
judasmachine
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No, it would not be classified as a world war. By your definition the 6 day war in 67 was a world war "War fought in 1967 between Israel on one side and Egypt, Jordan and Syria on the other side. The active Arab states received aid from Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Algeria"
A world war is defined as "a war in which the major nations of the world are involved". I do not believe the scnearios you listed qualify.
Bill
p.s. Aimster, RabidMongoose, any chance you could edit down your quotes a bit? They are so long that my pda often doesn't get your reply, just the original text you quoted.
I think you need to educate yourself on some history.
Oh, and please explain why these other countries are going to stand up with Iran and face certain destruction?
That's basically what I'm trying to say, but he is not capable of understanding such a statement. I guess he's so enamored with Iran that only Iran is worthy enough to have it be called WW3.
Sorry, I edited my quotes down.
Show me how I am so "enamored" with Iran.
You lack communication skills to point out what he said. You never brought up anything. All you did was ramble on and on. Your point was to try to make it seem like I have some special status for Iran.
Get over yourself. You don't associate with people outside your race so you assume that people who have blood in other countries love that country.
Yawn.
Who the hell cares if it is called WW3 or not. My point was that lots of countries would get involved. I don't care what the hell you want to call it. It doesn't make it any more special.
The same reason you say a certain someone always talks about another country. You put up a good number of Iran threads, you always talk about Iran, and you seem to think that Iran is so special that only its involvement can apparently cause WW3. Either that or you have zero understanding of history.
You lack communication and reading skills. I did point out that by using your criteria then there has already been WW3. But don't let the facts get in your way!
And yes, you do have a special status for Iran.
HAHAHAHAHA! You do realize that a very large portion of these forums are of different ethnicities from people descending from immigrants, right? Just like you! You're nothing special here. What a great assumption to make on these very forums, Aimster! HAHAHAHAHA!
Yawn, why don't you make some more posts about lies or say that the FBI is now watching you!
So why would these countries stand with Iran to face destruction? I guess sh!t sticks together?
You really need to go out more.
So what is my stance on Iran? You seem to know how I stand with Iran. I make threads to make Iran look good? Please do share.
You didn't point anything out. You just keep saying it already happend and then you said "why is Iran so special?". Special for what? How the hell can I answer that question when I am not even trying to make Iran look good.
I already laid out the possibilities of why other countries would get involved and if you can for a fact say 100% sure it won't happen then please be my guest. You cannot and you just continue to ramble.
So what is my stance on Iran? You seem to know how I stand with Iran. I make threads to make Iran look good? Please do share.
You didn't point anything out. You just keep saying it already happend and then you said "why is Iran so special?". Special for what? How the hell can I answer that question when I am not even trying to make Iran look good.
I already laid out the possibilities of why other countries would get involved and if you can for a fact say 100% sure it won't happen then please be my guest. You cannot and you just continue to ramble.
I think the person that posts on an internet forum about how the FBI is wiretapping his phones needs to get out more. But that's just my opinion. I guess we would all need to get out more if we're posting on a forum anyways.
I don't know what your stance is on everything about Iran, but it is very obvious that you try to elevate Iran to some sort of special status.
I asked why is Iran so special to make an attack against it a guarantee of WW3 while previous wars were not called WW3.
You can't say 100% that it will happen. In fact I'd say it's unlikely.
Anyways, you better be careful. The FBI may be listening in on you and even monitoring your posts!
"I don't know what your stance is on everything about Iran, but it is very obvious that you try to elevate Iran to some sort of special status."
Go ahead show me how. I really want to know how. You can't answer that question. Saying attacking Iran is going to cause WW3 is not giving Iran special status. That was my opinion of a World War and you think that label gives Iran special status... OK.
You are not mature enough to have a conversation. You don't give out information. You just reply. You aren't an educated person. All your post in P&N are not to give information, but to discredit others or laugh at them. I won't waste my time on someone like you. If you can even point out one thread/post where you have given information please share, but I doubt there are many if any at all.
If you honestly think Israel is going to sit around and let Hezbollah attack Israel and allow Iranian republician guard troops to fire missiles into Israel from Lebanon you really are not a smart person. If you had common sense which you obviously don't, other nations would be involved because of Israel. It has nothing to do with Iran, and my linking the other nations was a direct result of Israel getting involved. You failed to pick that up.
Go ahead show me how. I really want to know how. You can't answer that question. Saying attacking Iran is going to cause WW3 is not giving Iran special status. That was my opinion of a World War and you think that label gives Iran special status... OK.
You are not mature enough to have a conversation. You don't give out information. You just reply. You aren't an educated person. All your post in P&N are not to give information, but to discredit others or laugh at them. I won't waste my time on someone like you. If you can even point out one thread/post where you have given information please share, but I doubt there are many if any at all.
If you honestly think Israel is going to sit around and let Hezbollah attack Israel and allow Iranian republician guard troops to fire missiles into Israel from Lebanon you really are not a smart person. If you had common sense which you obviously don't, other nations would be involved because of Israel. It has nothing to do with Iran, and my linking the other nations was a direct result of Israel getting involved. You failed to pick that up.
MegaWorks
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Aimster, I don't understand why you think that the mid-east will rise in flame if Israel or the US attacks Iran. Iran doesn't have a lot of real friends in the mid-east as you think, the reason isn't hard to find the Iranians are Persians and thanks to Saddam Arabs hate Persians they call them "Ajam". The only real allies that Iran has is Syria, Lebanon and the Iraqi people. Don't count on Egypt or Saudi Arabia to do something when a strike happens.
Nobody is going to care if the U.S attacks Iran. The M.E does not like Israel. When Israel invades Lebanon Syria is going to get involved. The only advantage Iran has is that it can bring Israel into Lebanon which will bring Syria/Lebanon into the conflict.
Israel is hated in the region. Nobody wants to see "Jews" attack "Muslims".
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