Will the Republicans continue with their "something for nothing" policies?

techs

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I wonder if amongst all the "soul searching" the Republicans will finally end the get something for nothing policies they have had since the 1990's?

Clearly the policies aren't working for the country or their party anymore.

Let's look at what the Republicans have been doing:

You can have tax cuts without loss of services and in fact the tax cuts will increase government revenue.

You can have a Medicare drug plan for nothing. Not even a pretense at figuring out how to pay for it.

Two wars. No problem. We will put it in the credit card.

Medicare? We'll fix it by giving health insurance companies 10 percent off the top. Because less money will get you more care! Not to mention we will pay doctors more! See, Medicare fixed and it didn't cost you anything!

Want to buy a house? We'll just stand by while banks make insane loans. Then we'll bail them out. But we won't raise your taxes to do so!

Want cheap stuff? Lets hire illegal immigrants. And buy from the Chinese. Don't worry it won't affect your job or your salary!

The list goes on and on.

So, will the Republicans finally end their "get something for nothing" policies?

I think the answer is obvious. They are going to double down on that policy.
 

nehalem256

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Want to buy a house? We'll just stand by while banks make insane loans. Then we'll bail them out. But we won't raise your taxes to do so!

(1) Democrats were just as happy to see the insane loans being made.

(2) You might want to take a look at who voted for the bank bailouts

Want cheap stuff? Lets hire illegal immigrants. And buy from the Chinese. Don't worry it won't affect your job or your salary!

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Yeah, because Democrats are going to put a stop to illegal immigrants :rolleyes:

EDIT: And aren't liberals claiming the problem with the Republican party is they won't suck up enough to illegal latinos?
 

techs

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The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is a program of the United States government to purchase assets and equity from financial institutions to strengthen its financial sector that was signed into law by U.S. President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008. It was a component of the government's measures in 2008 to address the subprime mortgage crisis.
 

dud

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OK OP ... we get it. You DON'T LIKE THE REPUBLICANS!

We get it!

When are you going to start a thread persecuting the President (a Democrat) who actually signed the budgets that caused the HUGE increase in the national debt since he took office?

Try to see with eyes wide open for a moment ...
 

nehalem256

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The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is a program of the United States government to purchase assets and equity from financial institutions to strengthen its financial sector that was signed into law by U.S. President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008. It was a component of the government's measures in 2008 to address the subprime mortgage crisis.

And did George W. Bush use mind control over the Democrats who controlled the House and Senate?
 
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OK OP ... we get it. You DON'T LIKE THE REPUBLICANS!

We get it!

When are you going to start a thread persecuting the President (a Democrat) who actually signed the budgets that caused the HUGE increase in the national debt since he took office?

Try to see with eyes wide open for a moment ...

Don't count on it, hes a blind partisan hack
 

trenchfoot

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OK OP ... we get it. You DON'T LIKE THE REPUBLICANS!

We get it!

When are you going to start a thread persecuting the President (a Democrat) who actually signed the budgets that caused the HUGE increase in the national debt since he took office?

Try to see with eyes wide open for a moment ...

I was going to suggest you do the same, but from the gist of your post it looks like you think you already do. ;)
 

blackangst1

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The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is a program of the United States government to purchase assets and equity from financial institutions to strengthen its financial sector that was signed into law by U.S. President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008. It was a component of the government's measures in 2008 to address the subprime mortgage crisis.

And who signed the deregulation bills that caused the need for TARP?

Who revised the Community Reinvestment Act making banks meet quotas for a certain number of low income loans?

Who signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act which exempted credit default swaps from regulation?

:whiste:
 
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Genx87

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If techs had any honesty he would admit most of those complaints he just made apply to democrats as well.
 

werepossum

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If techs had any honesty he would admit most of those complaints he just made apply to democrats as well.
ALL of them apply to Democrats as well. Our nation has radically changed; we want free shit. Pubbies promise tax cuts will pay for it; Democrats promise other people will pay for it. We've tried full control by both parties and split control, and we now owe more than our GDP. By 2016 Greece will be saying "at least we aren't THOSE guys!" (Well, in between riots.)

It isn't a Republican problem or a Democrat problem, it's an AMERICAN problem. We're all intoxicated with the sweet nectar of Uncle Sugar's golden teat. We just differ in the lies we prefer to hear.
 

trenchfoot

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Techs, although I agree with the gist of your post title, given the behavior of the Repubs since Obama took office, instead of "something for nothing" it would be more accurate to say "give them nothing, but take from them everything" ala the movie "300".

IMO, it's hard to say how the Repub politicians will react to the drubbing they took this past elections given the perplexing quandry they now find themselves in.

Their single purpose effort to limit Obama to a single term produced all manner of backfiring that they're still trying to sort all of it out. It seems to me that the Repubs were convinced they were hurting Obama more than they were hurting themselves right up until Florida gave their EC votes to Obama.

It's telling that the Tea Party, for the most part was kept away from the media exposure they experienced during the 2010 elections. Nary a peep this time around.

*crap - gotta get to work - more later. ;)
 

FerrelGeek

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OK OP ... we get it. You DON'T LIKE THE REPUBLICANS!

We get it!

When are you going to start a thread persecuting the President (a Democrat) who actually signed the budgets that caused the HUGE increase in the national debt since he took office?

Try to see with eyes wide open for a moment ...

There's as much chance of him seeing reality as him getting any action besides his Obama blowup doll. And he has the deluxe model that allows the doll to do him.
 

FerrelGeek

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ALL of them apply to Democrats as well. Our nation has radically changed; we want free shit. Pubbies promise tax cuts will pay for it; Democrats promise other people will pay for it. We've tried full control by both parties and split control, and we now owe more than our GDP. By 2016 Greece will be saying "at least we aren't THOSE guys!" (Well, in between riots.)

It isn't a Republican problem or a Democrat problem, it's an AMERICAN problem. We're all intoxicated with the sweet nectar of Uncle Sugar's golden teat. We just differ in the lies we prefer to hear.

THIS! We're at the point where a majority of the people are addicted to voting themselves funds from the public treasury. Unless we collectively get off our crack habit, we're doomed.
 

JEDIYoda

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Yeah, because Democrats are going to put a stop to illegal immigrants :rolleyes:
You might take a look at why Romney lost......you cannot alienate a segment of people who are legally in the United States by demanding that their loved ones who may be illegal at present be shipped back to Mexico.....but keep talking...people like you make it very unlikely that the Republicans will ever step foot in the White House.......in fact I will go out on the limb and say that for another 16+ years a Democrat will be POTUS!!

At present you are the Democratic parties best friend!!
 

sigurros81

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OK OP ... we get it. You DON'T LIKE THE REPUBLICANS!

We get it!

When are you going to start a thread persecuting the President (a Democrat) who actually signed the budgets that caused the HUGE increase in the national debt since he took office?

Try to see with eyes wide open for a moment ...

A big chunk of what happened to our national debt is from Bush's tax break on the wealthy that is still going on. What the rich are pissing about is that Obama probably will repeal it come January.
 

dullard

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If techs had any honesty he would admit most of those complaints he just made apply to democrats as well.
Both parties have been fiscally liberal ever since the big democrat switch to republican party about 60 years ago. Republicans keep claiming to be conservative fiscally, but they aren't even close.

Reagan raised taxes a dozen times. Bush Sr. broke his tax promise. Bush Jr. rose the deficit to levels that Obama has kept steady. Etc. None of them were even remotely fiscal conservatives.

Genx87, if you want to win the presidency back, you need to help me push Republicans to be something new . something different. Something fiscally conservative. Not just lip service. But truely conservative.
 

sigurros81

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Both parties have been fiscally liberal ever since the big democrat switch to republican party about 60 years ago. Republicans keep claiming to be conservative fiscally, but they aren't even close.

Reagan raised taxes a dozen times. Bush Sr. broke his tax promise. Bush Jr. rose the deficit to levels that Obama has kept steady. Etc. None of them were even remotely fiscal conservatives.

Genx87, if you want to win the presidency back, you need to help me push Republicans to be something new . something different. Something fiscally conservative. Not just lip service. But truely conservative.

In other words, no side can really blame the other for our national debt, because EVERY PRESIDENT (with the exception of Bill Clinton) have had some contribution.
 
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Let's look at what the Democrats have been doing:

"You can have tax cuts without loss of services and in fact the tax cuts will increase government revenue."
Very possible to increase tax revenues by growing the economy...Dems appear to be having a very tough time with that particular concept though.
"You can have a Medicare drug plan for nothing. Not even a pretense at figuring out how to pay for it."
Dems bitched about this forever...but when they got control 2008-10...they didn't do a damn think to fix Part D. Not even a pretense at figuring out how to pay for it.

"Two wars. No problem. We will put it in the credit card."
Dems voted overwhelmingly for both wars. I must have missed their proposals to pay for them.

"Medicare? We'll fix it by giving health insurance companies 10 percent off the top. Because less money will get you more care! Not to mention we will pay doctors more! See, Medicare fixed and it didn't cost you anything!"
Dems cut $716 billion from Medicare over the next 10 years. The Medicare trustees 2012 report says that this will cause an estimated 15% of hospitals, skilled nursing facilities, and home health agencies to operate at a loss by 2019, 25% to operate at a loss in 2030, and 40% by 2050. Nice fix!

"Want to buy a house? We'll just stand by while banks make insane loans. Then we'll bail them out. But we won't raise your taxes to do so!"
For many years Dems pushed hard for Freddy Mac, Ginny Mae and the banks to make home ownership accessible to low income groups. This was a major factor in housing crisis along with the Dems role in Glass-Steagall, Community Reinvestment Act, and Commodity Futures Modernization Act as blackangst1 previously noted.


"Want cheap stuff? Lets hire illegal immigrants. And buy from the Chinese. Don't worry it won't affect your job or your salary!"
Dems don't want to deport illegal immigrants...but illegals gotta eat...so if you don't want them to work, then I guess it's OK for them to go on the government dole. BTW...NAFTA and GATT were passed with bipartisan support. Do you have any basis for your beliefs or do you just like to make up shit as you go along?

"The list goes on and on."
Yes, it does.

So, will the Democrats finally end their "get something for nothing" policies?

I think the answer is obvious. They are going to double down on that policy.
 
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sigurros81

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Dems don't want to deport illegal immigrants...but illegals gotta eat...so if you don't want them to work, then I guess it's OK for them to go on the government dole. BTW...NAFTA and GATT were passed with bipartisan votes. Do you have any basis for your beliefs or do you just like to make up shit as you go along?

Please stop pulling shit out of your ass just to support your ignorant generalizations.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...rack-obama-deported-more-people-any-other-pr/
 

sigurros81

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Good job referencing articles from a conservative and biased website. Does any of that change the fact that Obama has deported more illegals than any other presidents? Damn you're dense.