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Will the plane that landed in the Hudson be repaired?

compuwiz1

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Well, it looks like it's all there and could be repaired.
Any thoughts on whether or not they can salvage it and put it back into flight?

Engines can be replaced.
Sheet metal can be repaired.

It seems that it will cost much more to junk it than to repair it.
 
Only if they put it on a treadmill.

Due to structural/water damage from landing and damage from pulling it out of the river then ripping it apart for investigation, it will be scrapped.
 
Hmm.. Good question. I have no idea what the policy on crashed airliners is.

I doubt it will fly again though. Just too much to be damaged in that sort of crash.
 
Well, they could just give it to me, since they are gonna throw it away. 😉

I already have a treadmill and have been waiting for a free airplane.
 
No, but for $19.95 plus a huge shipping and handling fee I will sent you a 1mm x 1mm piece of the plane.

But wait... there's more....
 
I would imagine that the structural integrity of the fuselage could not be ensured. There has to be damage to the lower part of the fuselage and it sounds as though one of the engines was torn off. Regardless, the skin of the plane itself is riveted on and with the water and all, the resultant corrosion would render it unusable.

But, what do I know about airplanes - truly. I just can't imagine it being put in the air again.
 
No - every single piece and part will be dissected, tested and analyzed. And the FAA I'm sure would make sure that nothing is ever used again.
 
No. The amount of stress put on the air frame is completely over what is considered normal. There's no way to predict what kind of life it would have left so it will not be used again. Even things that aren't structural will probably be considered unusable after spending the night in the water. The only way you'll see parts of this plane fly again is after they are melted down for scrap made into new parts.


I'm pretty sure that Airbus, the FAA and the NTSB will want to tear the plane apart to learn about what happens during a water landing. That's invaluable data that can be used for improving design.
 
More than likely they'd look at its guts after such a thing happened so I'd say it won't. But I want my commemorative coin or plate of this!
 
Nobody knows if this plane is salvageable or not but it was done in the past.
A DC 8 that landed in the water was repaired and returned to operation as this wiki article indicates:

Japan Airlines Flight 2 was a flight that was piloted by Captain Kohei Asoh on November 22, 1968.[1] The DC-8 plane was scheduled to land at San Francisco International Airport but Asoh mistakenly landed the plane in the waters of San Francisco Bay, two and a half miles short of the runway.[2][3] None of the 96 passengers or 11 crew were killed or injured in the mishap, and the plane was eventually recovered and refurbished for service. Asoh had served as a flight instructor in the Imperial Japanese Navy during the Second World War and was a 15-year veteran of JAL. He had almost 9,800 hours of flight experience at the time of the accident.[3]

A National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) hearing was called to investigate the reasons behind the accident. Captain Asoh took the stand as first witness and supposedly said, in answer to why he had landed in the bay, "As you Americans say, Asoh fuck up."[4]

He took full responsibility for the accident and refused to blame anyone else or any other circumstances. Following his return to Japan, Asoh was sent to retrain as a co-pilot. Such a frank acceptance of blame has come to be known as the "Asoh Defense". It has been discussed in various books such The Abilene Paradox by Professor Jerry Harvey, publications [5][6] and in company training films.[7]
 
Originally posted by: Number1
Nobody knows if this plane is salvageable or not but it was done in the past.
A DC 8 that landed in the water was repaired and returned to operation as this wiki article indicates:

Japan Airlines Flight 2 was a flight that was piloted by Captain Kohei Asoh on November 22, 1968.[1] The DC-8 plane was scheduled to land at San Francisco International Airport but Asoh mistakenly landed the plane in the waters of San Francisco Bay, two and a half miles short of the runway.[2][3] None of the 96 passengers or 11 crew were killed or injured in the mishap, and the plane was eventually recovered and refurbished for service. Asoh had served as a flight instructor in the Imperial Japanese Navy during the Second World War and was a 15-year veteran of JAL. He had almost 9,800 hours of flight experience at the time of the accident.[3]

A National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) hearing was called to investigate the reasons behind the accident. Captain Asoh took the stand as first witness and supposedly said, in answer to why he had landed in the bay, "As you Americans say, Asoh fuck up."[4]

He took full responsibility for the accident and refused to blame anyone else or any other circumstances. Following his return to Japan, Asoh was sent to retrain as a co-pilot. Such a frank acceptance of blame has come to be known as the "Asoh Defense". It has been discussed in various books such The Abilene Paradox by Professor Jerry Harvey, publications [5][6] and in company training films.[7]

To be fair, they removed all of the wiring from that fuselage and replaced it, also most of the hydraulics, AC, all of the flight controls, and interior were replaced. So pretty much just the hull was salvaged and reused 😛.

Even more interesting, that plane was finally retired in 2004, after DHL and Airborne Express (who was the current owner) merged.
 
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Well, they could just give it to me, since they are gonna throw it away. 😉

I already have a treadmill and have been waiting for a free airplane.

:laugh:
 
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Number1
Nobody knows if this plane is salvageable or not but it was done in the past.
A DC 8 that landed in the water was repaired and returned to operation as this wiki article indicates:

Japan Airlines Flight 2 was a flight that was piloted by Captain Kohei Asoh on November 22, 1968.[1] The DC-8 plane was scheduled to land at San Francisco International Airport but Asoh mistakenly landed the plane in the waters of San Francisco Bay, two and a half miles short of the runway.[2][3] None of the 96 passengers or 11 crew were killed or injured in the mishap, and the plane was eventually recovered and refurbished for service. Asoh had served as a flight instructor in the Imperial Japanese Navy during the Second World War and was a 15-year veteran of JAL. He had almost 9,800 hours of flight experience at the time of the accident.[3]

A National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) hearing was called to investigate the reasons behind the accident. Captain Asoh took the stand as first witness and supposedly said, in answer to why he had landed in the bay, "As you Americans say, Asoh fuck up."[4]

He took full responsibility for the accident and refused to blame anyone else or any other circumstances. Following his return to Japan, Asoh was sent to retrain as a co-pilot. Such a frank acceptance of blame has come to be known as the "Asoh Defense". It has been discussed in various books such The Abilene Paradox by Professor Jerry Harvey, publications [5][6] and in company training films.[7]

To be fair, they removed all of the wiring from that fuselage and replaced it, also most of the hydraulics, AC, all of the flight controls, and interior were replaced. So pretty much just the hull was salvaged and reused 😛.

Even more interesting, that plane was finally retired in 2004, after DHL and Airborne Express (who was the current owner) merged.

thanks for the very interesting info. Where did you find it?
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
No, but for $19.95 plus a huge shipping and handling fee I will sent you a 1mm x 1mm piece of the plane.

But wait... there's more....

Slapchop!...Vince is that you? 😀
 
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